Posts by boa

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Did The "Ressurection Hope" Keep You Involved As A Witness?

by minimus in

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i know a number of persons that remained as jws because they desperately wanted to see their loved ones come back from the grave and be there to welcome them.

they were afraid that if they died at armageddon or were not totally faithful that there would be a great possibility of never seeing them again........was that "ressurection hope" a big draw for you remaining a witness?

boa

it was part of a mosiac of fear I was serving and that kept me deep in the org,

I know of some who do allow this to greatly influence their witness involvement and any shallow glance at the scripts IMO would show this to be a weak support for one's faith.

galaxy, a sad but true story for many I believe.

Min, I guess an even betterer question for me now would be - Would those in the new system WANT me to be coming back LOL

My experience is that for people supposedly having the 'truth' about death and the resurrection, there sure are a lot who not only don't 'grieve as others do' but are really messed up because they never accept death for the only observable conclusion I've seen, namely, the opposite of life and hopefully one finds a way NOW to deal with it. If a resurrection occurs later - GREAT, but lets cope NOW.

boa

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I HAVE A POOL!!!!

by tazmanian russel in

growing up as a jdub had a lot of annoying things involed with it..one of my favs was..haveing a pool!!!

this is what went through every familys mind in my hall...well well ..the so and so family have a pool and its hot out and we having nothing to do ...soooo lets go swimin!....um mommy the smiths r in our back yard again ..and now they r swimming ...oh dont worry , go get them a towl from the pool house..this is how it started , then it got worse and worse...we are thirsty wah..we want to play with the video games ..what are we a community centre all of a sudden...oh oh now they r getting really nervey..we are hungry!!!

well i guess u might as well stay for supper ...do u have enough?

boa

I HAVE A OOL - NOTICE THERE'S NO 'P' IN IT! LOL Saw that sign at a jw fam we were friends with.

I plan on getting a OOL someday for the kids and since no jws will come to it, we'll see if nonjws are just as bad in taking advantage, or, maybe we'll just keep it all to ourselves muhahahaha....

boa

ps, nude pooling is great eh? Anyone else?

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DO YOU BELIEVE ARMAGEDDON WILL EVER COME?

by Mary in

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friends

sometimes i look at the world and i think "man, how much longer can it go on?

" sometimes i think perhaps armageddon will come in my life-time.

the one scripture i always think of is the one in revelation where it says that jehovah "will bring to ruin, those ruining the earth.

boa

nope, at least not as jws or other 'end-timers' preach. They've been doing that crap virtually from the moment the 'prophecies' have been uttered right up until now.

the initial assumption of 'beliefs' indicates that one tends to believe what one wants to believe not what is 'fact'. 'Facts' imo are simply manipulations of observation and can easily be different to different observers. i.e. one observes the sun 'coming up' in the morning out of the 'east', yet the facts (as reasonably deduced at this point in science) are that the earth is turning on its axis exposing different parts of its surface to sunlight over a 24 hr period and 'east' is a label made by men.

And yes, the above statement fully applies to me - For example, I see evidence that supports both evolution and creation,not any 'proof'. Proof of course, is also in the eye of the observer for cripes sakes.

My assumption for many years is that this universe is a really neat place, but cold as well and would just as soon kill you as save you. You die, and there isn't a shred of proof that you've gone somewhere betterer imo. I don't believe in a personal God as I see not a shred of proof that such a thing exists. Emotional appeal and experiences are swell i'm sure but tell that to people who have been tortured, abused, and killed, that there is a loving God. There may be a creator, and I believe this because my assumption is that this would be nice and also possibly explain complex structures in nature. But the terms 'may' and 'believe' that I use simply don't mean jack - reality may be very different.

Another assumption I have is that life is better, first for me, then my own, then others around me if certain civil behaviours are practiced. Survival then isn't the only focus to life and there is much 'beauty' in life as well.

I prefer to believe in the beauty to be found in people, and 'believe' there are many many out there who seek to do good and act on it (MOST of these are not jws cuz there's not just 6 million, but 6 billion to draw from).

Thus, I prefer to look ahead to a future that is improving in many ways and 'believe' in the inherent goodness and unselfishness people are capable of displaying and don't wish an unlikely God-directed Armageddon on anyone. To put people so casually in classes of 'wicked' and 'righteous' is bald faced arrogance with a lack of natural affection imo hiding behind so-called supporting scriptures. sheesh.

Thank God, this cold-hearted negative world-view of the end and the people in it is something I cast off from the jws.

boa

jeece, mary great thread, yah musta touched a chord there cuz I went off a bit...

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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #89 (Happy Easter everybody!)

by ozziepost in

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friends

so, how's this long weekend going for you?

not too many out witnessing, eh?.

i think most people take the opportunity of visiting family, but, of course, for some of us that's not possible thanks to the borg, so what've you been doing?.

boa

hi ozzie,

the fam and I went for a long walk today - doing this out in the beautiful weather makes me think about the joy it is to be living. Since leaving the org, I might add, I love life and freedom all the more which means I even love my family all the more!

Poll: I've done both sitting and standing. Of the latest yrs of my life, my tendency would be to stand respectfully and try not to sing LOL, those damn anthems are catchy!

So, when I was a sitter, 1, 2, and 13 Other - I couldn't help but think this sure was bloody disrespectful and for no gd good reason - sheesh

boa

btw, the wife, kids and I have been learning our good ol' anthem just in case we want to sing it - Oh Canada. And not the other anthem which ends in 'I AM CANADIAN' LOL. Hey we KNOW the americans are jealous of our canadian backdoor patriotism...

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nightmares

by in a new york bethel minute in

i grew up having nightmares about armageddon, satan and, most of all jehovah.

i am 25 now and i still get nightmares, and they're always about these same things.

i was wondering if my brain is overactive, or if other people on this site get nightmares about things they learned as a witness.

boa

welcome ianybm!

one armageddon dream (more like an apocalyps dream) I had several times years ago - I'm at school and in the distance I see a nuke go off and I see the mushroom cloud. I know that a terrible energy impact and fire is on its way so I quickly start witlessing to the nearest person (a better thing to do woulda been spending my last minutes 'getting to know' some babe better lol). Anyway, I realize the blast is coming and dammit I do die! No pain, just nothingness and I wake up somewhat shaken.

boa

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The New and Improved JWs Now With 3 classes of Christians!

by XQsThaiPoes in

the study articles are amazing.

i can't tell if anyone caught it but they are ground breakingly incompetent.

the have redefined 1914, the anointed, fds and the "evil slave".

boa

yup soledad, thank some god somewhere i just couldn't care beyond simple curiosity cuz I have my own belief where this org is going - nowhere imo.

thanks X for the update - though i guess i need the whole article to really understand what yer saying

boa

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Anyone Here of the Anointed?

by confusedjw in

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has or is anyone here of the anointed?.

i would like to know more about the abba father thing in which those of the anointed "know" for certain without a shadow of a doubt they are chosen as jesus brothers..

boa

confused - nope for me.

but in comment to you relating the jw intrepretation of the indisputable 'something' that the anointed 'feel' from the 'spirit reckoning with their spirit', my opinion is that this is another wts mystery and seems unprovable. I never could understand their explantion and have always wondered about it and a lot of other things which is probably why I am here and at this point in my life with this org.

i'm currently still thinking the explanation R Franz gives in the latest version of COC fits the best - namely not some big emotional strange experience but ANY and ALL who accept jesus and follow him become part of the anointed. That simply makes me a parrot of someone else but what else is new?

for me, i'm not anything right now, I need time to heal wt spiritual damage me thinks

boa

not in the little flock or other sheep apparently...

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E-watchman hath awakened me...

by czarofmischief in

who dares disturb czar during his slumbers from the board?

e-watchman dares!

very well, some of you seem to be in love with apocalypse already boy... look ye, upon his works, and despair.. from his latest commentary:.

boa

jeece, just like the 'peak oil' thing, people will ever seek to influence others about some cataclysmic end and many will follow and quake in fear, a real easy button to press with humans imo.

boa

of the not even interested in considering cataclysmic ends class - if it comes...I'll either live or die and the gd universe won't give a crap.....

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e-watchman, thoughts from past topic

by confusedjw in

i was looking back and a month ago there was a topic about e-watchman and who he was and why he would expose the wt with one side of his mouth and encourage loyalty with the other side.

i wonder if these might be the reasons.... 1. he himself claims to be of the anointed and truly believes he is helping to expose the "evil slave" amongst jehovah's people.. 2. by encouraging loyalty to the wt he doesn't scare away the numberous active witnesses who read his columns and send in questions.

they read and stay in the congregations.

boa

I know this is an 'old' thread, but let me kill it with a coupla comments on e-watchman.

I just went there this morning for several hrs after seeing the newest post on the letter to the governing body he sent out to thousands of cong's

I think you hit the nail on the head confused about this guy - i wonder though if it really is more of a very clever shot to seem like he essentially supports the org but not in fact.

I didn't agree with his commentary on blood transfusions and the shot at the end against the 'sect of Ray Franz' - sheesh whatever....

It will be interesting to see how e-watchman plays out since he apparently signed his name at the bottom of the letter to gb and he apparently is booted out of the cong...

oh yah, others have said he was You Know on this site - but how would I know? I'm just a 'junior member' snick

boa

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ARRRGGGG.......Post Count

by Sassy in

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friends

here i go.. out of posts again!!!

so ironic that i can create a new topic but not post!

i really think that sometimes the system must think some posts are so valuable that they count as two.. or maybe five..

boa

sassssssy! you 50 post using goddess! I kneel before thee in awe wishing I could attain to such awesome majesty...

Is there anything I can do to serve thee in thy greatness...heh heh

great new avatar pic btw

boa

of the just can't seem to hit 50 posts class..I keep getting distracted in chat by all the ladies....jgnat, sassy, bisous (meow), k2 (bunny), eyegirl, jo, stef, and man am I gonna get it if I've forgotten someone, oh yah that big sissy NOdenial...he's almost a girl.