Men make the rules. It is man made, male run religion. If the GB had to wear skirts out in service in 10 degree weather in Michigan, I'd bet they would find a scripture to justify wearing pants.
This is an American, male, midwestern cult.
when my mum went to her first meeting she was dressed to perfection, she wore nice ladies dress trouser/pants.
the witness stuying with her told her it was "not apropriate" to wear this to the meeting...in 2006 i was in a congregation where a sister would put a skirt on over her pants she wore to work.
it looked weird, but the pants ban still is in force 2007.
Men make the rules. It is man made, male run religion. If the GB had to wear skirts out in service in 10 degree weather in Michigan, I'd bet they would find a scripture to justify wearing pants.
This is an American, male, midwestern cult.
hey all, i have to give a #4 talk on tuesday.
topic:.
"why true christians do not accept blood transfusions".
While true Christains may not take whole blood, they may take any of a number of blood fractions that the Faithful and Discreet Slave has determined through their communications with those who have been resurrected to heaven (as seen in the vision given to John by JesusChrist.) This concession on the Creator's part in no way negates the validity or force of the blood ban; it is merely a mercy shown to those who have a weak faith in his promises of a resurrection. Those with a strong faith need no such concession, and therefore refuse all blood products for themselves and their children. By doing so they receive a reward now, that of a clean and sterling conscience before God, and may go to Hades confident that their memory will be etched securely into God's perfect brain.
{from watchtower life story- please note the pressure put on him at bethel}.
in 1934 karl klien had a nervous breakdown while serving at bethel.
baptized at 12 he didn't go door to door till he was 18...while serving as a teenage elder!
Karl Klein was an overrated intellect at best. He was wanted on the GB because the stronger personlities could roll over him. He wasn't a thinker. He wasn't independent. He was a wooss. And he hated Rutherford. That much is true.
these sex laws have bothered me for some time.
until coming here i was unaware of all the pedophilia problems in the org.
the interesting thing about these two bible laws are that if a girl was engaged, and screamed during rape, the rapist only is executed.
I think you're logic on this one is a stretch. Disagree with the rules of an ancient society if you wish; but to say that this particular passage is proof that pedophilia is ENCOURAGED, is frankly laughable. The law on its face serves as a basis to protect the innocent within the context of its time. Defiled virgins were unmarraigeable and therefore would be rendered homeless and childless. These laws served as a measure of protection for women.
hello all.
my wonderful, never- a -witness -husband, would like to know, who thinks there is one true religion, and why?
There is no "one true religion." Religion is so men can put God in a box and their fellows in a prison.
yearbook 1994 p.180-189 "1919 {after russell died}...by drawing away most of the brothers for themselves, the opposers gained control of the legal corporation {bible students association inc.} ...this resulted in the loss of the meeting place of the warsaw congregation...the registration of "the bible student association group 2" was composed of brothers loyal to the society..{after 1925 failed prophecy} warsaw congregation was sharply divided...out of 300 brothers, only 30 remained loyal to the society, of 150 persons in lodz only 3 brothers and 6 sisters loyally continued to meet together...three of these opposition groups exist today...the work being done by the "faithful slave' had to start almost anew...now even "bible students association group 2" was under control of apostates.
it goes on to say, the polish government refused to register a "group 3.
" however one apostate from the first group comes back into the truth!
I am sure there's a Polish joke in there somewhere.
another thread here reminded me of something i used to wonder about while i was still an active jw, and haven't really thought about until now that i was reminded of it again.. - this is probably a very banal question, but (the premise comes first):.
-god created a myriad of angels in heaven before he created our universe and earth, right?.
-and - except for those who rebelled - they are all still up there, right?.
Angels are the lower creation. Man was to experience a physical life and then pass on to immortality--- become like God in both knowledge, form, and power. Hey, it's just as good as any other explanation, right?
something is very very wrong with our world.
or am i imagining it and things really aren't that bad?.
personally i think there are issues being played out about which we know nothing, we can only guess at ( i don't think it's the issue of universal sovereignty).
JFK said the problems we faced were man made. If the problems are man made, why can't the solutions be man made, too?
yes, i like to gaze around during prayers, especially big ones.
twice now i have seen the chairman or concluding speaker finish the song, approach the speaker stand, say "let's approach god in prayer," and at the last second pull out a index card size of paper with writing on it.
he kind of cups his hand over as he lays in on top of the song book.
The only public prayers that I evr heard at any JW function that were actually prayers--- I hate to say--- were my own.
looking back over the years, would you say that from the society's point of view, that developing a boe arrangement worked out well?
and from an individual point of view, were you affected more negatively because now there were more elders that you had to account to?
The problem, as I saw it, was the CENTRAL control of the structure. It's fascism. There is nothing pastoral about the arrangement.