Thank you for your post Soledad. I generally read posts on my iPhone - which doesn't allow me to comment. It was very well written and I felt like I was there with you.
Purza
it was dull.
i could have sworn that i heard the same talk 20 years ago.
witnesses look tired, bored, lifeless.
Thank you for your post Soledad. I generally read posts on my iPhone - which doesn't allow me to comment. It was very well written and I felt like I was there with you.
Purza
today at the meeting we were told by the co, that we got a gift three months ago!
the gift we got is the one more free evening weekly, because of the new meeting arrangement.
this gift was given to us by jehovah through faithfull an discreet slave.
Isn't it amazing how they can put a "spin" on anything to make it sound good?
"Brother So and So lost his legs in an accident-isn't it great that now he can wear shorts to the meeting, and will never have to buy shoes again?"
Okay, this made me laugh until I cried. It is so damn true - the idiocy of their words and thought processes.
Purza
not sure if this made it here yet:.
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090315/articles/903150964.
we share something exactly in common, "when she left the religion as a 19 year-old ssu student..." i am very sad her dad shuns her, though..
I read that article in the PD last week. In fact one of my co-workers brought it to my attention because she saw the JW connection. I think the more open and outspoken ex-JWs are, it really gives a "bad witness" - which is the whole point.
Purza
on the thread about 'moving on after leaving the witnesses', it brought to mind how hard it is to build new friendships .. for me i have been out for a little over three years .
i knew before i quit that it would be important to fill the void that would be left when old "friends" began dropping us .
lucky for me i worked with some very fun out going people at my job .
I have found friendships with people at work. Yes, it can be scary to initiate contact, but it is worth it and as mentioned by Candle above, friendships cannot be rushed - they need to be cultivated. I would also say that in order to have friends, you have to be a friend too -- not a flake. I really haven't made a lot of friends online, except for one or two that I have made through this board and going to apostafests.
Purza
if you didn't initiate contact with children or other relatives, would there be no communication whatsoever?
i realize that estrangement over jw-related issues is a huge factor.. i have friends whose grown children call daily.. does other's failure to stay in touch indicate indifference or simply sheer busyness, in your humble opinion?.
coco .
I keep in touch with my mother by email. It is very frustrating because I listen to all of her JW crap, while I can say nothing about my beliefs. Or well, I can. . . but it wouldn't go over very well. Otherwise, I have nothing to do with the rest of my family - and yeah, I am okay with that.
Purza
why is it that on jw discussion boards, anyone who brings up difficult issues or questions will soon be banned from the site, while sites like this one where debate and discussion are encouraged, we welcome believing jws with open arms?.
of course, most of us here know the answer to that!
but it is something to take note of, and to mention when you get a chance.. there was a recent post about a jw group on facebook.
Perhaps the individuals that start these discussions or sites have good intentions in the beginning - THINKING they are open minded. Then the hard questions start being asked and they panic and ban everyone who thinks differently. Just like the KH - anyone who starts asking thought provoking questions during a meeting get a talking to by the elders after the meeting.
Just a thought.
Purza
with the economic downturn affecting my personal financial situation my plans will be limited unless it turns around..
Beks - you have a PM.
Purza
i was disappointed in this book, i kept reading it hoping it would get better.
i guess i got spoiled by this forum.
i have found better writings and stories here and a heck of a lot more humor.
I am halfway through the book and I am enjoying it. (So far) her experience growing up as a JW is very similar to mind - I think that is why I find this book so entertaining. I am curious to see how she leaves and what happens to her.
Purza
with the economic downturn affecting my personal financial situation my plans will be limited unless it turns around..
Beks - we go to Yosemite at least once a year. Do you camp there?
Purza
i'm talking about one you can have a beer with, talk to, etc.
one that won't snub you no matter what.
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Very few. Two to be exact. One left with me and the other one is on the fringe and spends time with me whenever I call (which is not very often). Basically, your JW friends are ONLY your friends because you are in the same boat as them. When you leave, they drop you like a hot potato.
Purza