Am I dreaming this up, or aren't they a pagan symbol? If so, why would JW's continue to use them as part of a marriage ceremony in Jehovah's eyes?
*head hurts*
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am i dreaming this up, or aren't they a pagan symbol?
if so, why would jw's continue to use them as part of a marriage ceremony in jehovah's eyes?.
Am I dreaming this up, or aren't they a pagan symbol? If so, why would JW's continue to use them as part of a marriage ceremony in Jehovah's eyes?
*head hurts*
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hello i am new and this will probably be the last time i post.
nice forum by the way but honestly and with all due respect it is not something i would like to be associated with.
i joined saying "oh cool a jw forum" but after reading just 2 posts i realized it is the black veil all over again.
I know if I ask if you guys are so enlightened why didnt you try to provide info instead of harsh remarks
Provide info? This site is your info, sweetheart. These members are the soundingboard. They have been more accepting of me as a person than ANY JW's ever were. I was ostracized from the only "friends" I ever knew because I dared fall in love with a "worldly" man. Am I imbittered? You better believe I am.
Oh by the way, whada'ya think of my screenname?
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i always wondered (even when i was still in the organization), but never had the guts to ask.. if a woman becomes pregnant, but the egg has implanted in the falopian tube....will the jw's condone an abortion to save the life of the mother?
or does it boil down to their usual pansy-ass, "matter of conscience" excuse.
I always wondered (even when I was still in the organization), but never had the guts to ask.
If a woman becomes pregnant, but the egg has implanted in the falopian tube....will the JW's condone an abortion to save the life of the mother? Or does it boil down to their usual pansy-ass, "matter of conscience" excuse.
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hello every body,.
i'd like to introduce myself, i hope you will well understand me (indeed, iam a 23 yeas old french girl).. i am very happy to see that several personn has lived the seam experience has me so they are abble to understand better what i feel and who can help us to live better ans follow our way forward life(i hope you will understand what i mean).. i was born in a jw's family, and when i got 12 i begin to ask me some question and have some doubts about this ''thruth".. when i begin to have my boyfriend (not jw) i had to lie...we stayed 4 year together but i never had sexual relation because i was affraid of consequency (even if i was not baptized).
but every times "brother and sisters" told lies to my parents, about me and about what i was doing with my boyfriend (but we never did anything).
Hi Shana--
I am 23, like yourself, and was also raised a JW. I did the sneaking-around-and-dating thing also. Hard, wasn't it?
You'll be glad that you found this place....I am.
Welcome. :)
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there was some really piddily-crap that i remember.. for instance, when i was about 17 toe-rings became popular, and one of the sisters bought one....wore it to the kh during the summer with her sandals.
my best friend in the hall wanted one, which of course caused this huge debate about whether it would be okay 'in jehovah's eyes', and didn't it go against the scripture that counsels women against "bodily adornment", blah-blah-blah.
toe rings??!
There was some really piddily-crap that I remember.
For instance, when I was about 17 toe-rings became popular, and one of the sisters bought one....wore it to the KH during the summer with her sandals. My best friend in the hall wanted one, which of course caused this huge debate about whether it would be okay 'in Jehovah's eyes', and didn't it go against the scripture that counsels women against "bodily adornment", blah-blah-blah.
Toe rings??! I was still a hard-core dub at that point, and still remember thinking, "WTF???!!!".
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i know most of you wouldn't read this, after-all it might improve your life and you don't want that do you?.
no sane person enjoys confrontation.
we like to be liked and thought well of.
Ohmygod.....yet another ideal the organization taught me.
*laughs sardonically*
I am very non-confrontational. Almost disgustingly so. Thank you for the reminder to keep myself in check when I feel a nice big shoe heel coming down on my head.
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it's been about four years since i attended the kh, and i'm amazed to realize just how many of the doctrines i have forgotten.. i don't have the literature at my disposal anymore (or maybe i'm just too lazy), and the phrase "sacred secret" just popped into my head yesterday.
wasn't it one of the j-dub teachings of some sort?
(i remember asking my mom when i was a little girl, and i seems to me that she had trouble explaining it herself.).
LOL @ Joyzabel. :)
And thank you Gumby (and everyone else).....it seems to me that explanation makes sense with what I (vaguely) remember. Does the Bible even use that specific terminology (sacred secret).....or is it just a NWT thing?
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hi folks, its been awhile since i last posted here.
and im coming here now to see if i can find a few that have been in similar situations as me and to see what they did or didnt do and how they would handle it if they could do it again.
the last 2 months have been hell.
To Decender--
It makes me want to cry listening to this. I am so like your wife. And I can't speak for her, but I would give the world to be given a second chance with my ex. No, it's not fair that she treat you the way that she has. It's hurtful and destructive to you and your relationship. But I can empathize with both sides because I put my ex through hell and back and still cry for the loss of him. If she was raised a J-dub she was a repressed child. She never experienced what she needed to growing up because she wasn't allowed. It was branded "bad". So she probably held in those desires for 20+ years until she had to let the animal inside free.
It's almost eerie. My ex always gave me massive amounts of attention, telling me everyday that I was beautiful, how lucky he was. Still, my insecurities have always been so high that other mens' attentions have always reached out and grabbed me.
I hope that things will work out for you. I'm not saying to be a doormat, as other posters have pointed out, but I am saying that I know what she is going through, and I would fall over backwards to see my ex take on the empathy that you seem to have. I did take him for granted, but that was before I even had an inkling that my psycological issues had anything to do with the mind-control I was raised with.
Have you suggested any of these things to her?
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it's been about four years since i attended the kh, and i'm amazed to realize just how many of the doctrines i have forgotten.. i don't have the literature at my disposal anymore (or maybe i'm just too lazy), and the phrase "sacred secret" just popped into my head yesterday.
wasn't it one of the j-dub teachings of some sort?
(i remember asking my mom when i was a little girl, and i seems to me that she had trouble explaining it herself.).
It's been about four years since I attended the KH, and I'm amazed to realize just how many of the doctrines I have forgotten.
I don't have the literature at my disposal anymore (or maybe I'm just too lazy), and the phrase "sacred secret" just popped into my head yesterday. Wasn't it one of the J-dub teachings of some sort? What was it? (I remember asking my mom when I was a little girl, and I seems to me that she had trouble explaining it herself.)
Just curious if anyone remembers this from their studies.
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