Yes, I turned in several people over to elders in my many years in the cult.
I regret turning each and every one of them in except for one.
MYSELF. I am glad I confessed my "Sin", I wish I had done it earlier.
i am not proud of that, for i know the pain i caused someone as i look back.. i turned in 4 people for 'gross sins' over my tenure as a jw.
i wish i could take it back now.
were these people guilty of 'sin' as defined by the wts?
Yes, I turned in several people over to elders in my many years in the cult.
I regret turning each and every one of them in except for one.
MYSELF. I am glad I confessed my "Sin", I wish I had done it earlier.
would you reestablish ties with jehovah' s witnesses?.
diagnosis of a potentially fatal illness?.
death of a loved one?.
Would you reestablish ties with Jehovah' s Witnesses?
For example:
Diagnosis of a potentially fatal illness?
Death of a loved one?
Sudden loss of income and livelihood?
Near death experience?
or did you ever feel uncomfortable going to a wedding or some other function, knowing that perhaps witnesses would try to question you?.
Like Blondie, I am neither D/A or D/F, but I faded away about 10 years ago.
The only weddings I have attended were weddings of people who have that same non dub status as myself, so the dubs attending these weddings are already conditioned not to ask me about my thoughts on the "troff".
Funerals are a little more complicated. Since a few of the dubs that I grew up with or their parents, have died over the past 10 years, I have attended some of these funerals, when I felt that they played a signifant part in my life.
Whenever I have been asked if I attend the hall, Ijust say no, and then I firmly say, you should stop asking me questions about the truth, right now. That always ends the conversation.
It has shown me who actually has true affection for me and those who don't. If they change the subject and then talk about some else and not run away from me, then I know that they still care. If the act like I have the plaque after my comment, then the hell with them.
our dear mouthy is really having a tough time right now and needs our support and/or prayers.
as some of you may know, she's already lost 3 of her children in death and the other one to the borg.
in the last couple of days, she's had to worry about her 2 year old great-granddaughter being in the hospital with an illness and yesterday, her daughter had a suspicious mole removed from her back and was told there is a lump in her breast which has to be biopsied.
Mouthy, you and your family will be mentioned in my prayers.
Remember that you have friends here at JWD that support you.
recently at a theo night, it was mentioned that the cong was behind in their donation to the society and it was specifically mentioned that the mags and books cost $$4 and the donations weren't even with the amount of mags and books being requested.
does this not show that the society is still after the congregations for the money for "free" mags and books?
what a bunch of hyprocrites.
I would tell them to take the shortage out of the millions of dolllars there are profitting from the sale of their buildings that we (all of us) paid for with our donations.
with all the news concerning the child abuse lawsuits, and from reading many comments concerning the wts' view of women, i started remembering lots of little things that were brought up at my kh in the many years i attended.
i don't remember anything pertaining to the brothers.
but, there were things brought up from the platform that just seem ridiculous.
My mom worked at a major Financial Institution on Wall st, where an elder from another congo also worked.
One day after lunch the elder noticed my mom carrying a few shopping bags, (she had bought herself shoes and other articles of clothing) when he stopped her in the middle of the lobby and yelled at her, "why are you spending your husbands money on trivia things". My mom back then had a few working brain cells, yelled back, when I start sleeping in the same bed as you and you are paying the bills, then you can question me about my purchases, or would you like to talk directly to my unbelieving husband?"
Eveyone in the lobby stopped and when completely silent. many of my mom's worldly co workers we very offended by the elders attitude.
That was before my mom became a regular pioneer and destroyed all of her brain cells.
i am a big fan of the show t"the family guy".
stewie really cracks me up!.
last night the dad tells chris to go to his closet, chris resists by saying that the "angry monkey" lives in his closet and he will get him.
I am a big fan of the show t"The Family Guy". Stewie really cracks me up!
Last night the Dad tells Chris to go to his closet, Chris resists by saying that the "Angry Monkey" lives in his closet and he will get him.
Then he said that the Angry Monkey is not so angry anymore since he became a Jehovah's Witness.
They then show the Angry Monkey snarling, dressed in a suit with a Watchtower in his out stretched hand.
Very Funny.
Any other Family Guy fans out there?
i've got an older sister who is a decent sort.. she remains within the congregation and is married to the po, but still treats me like a human being despite having inklings of my true views.. she was coming over to discuss a few family things so i 'tidied up' my ray franz books by turning their spines to the wall and carried a smaller and less obvious gun in my pocket than usual.. i viewed it as courtesy to an invited guest, but wondered if it might be a typical behavior.. any thoughts?.
roller.
I guess I do in my own way.
I never invite Dubs over around the hoildays.
i have a very close friend, who is still an active dub.
we have known each other since we were kids and we have been able to maintain a strong friendship - we are actually more like brothers than friends.. we have reached a truce - i don't try to talk him out of being a dub and he doesn't try to talk me out of being an apostate.. we have both worked hard to honor this rule.. my problem is, i am the "godfather" of his son.
meaning if something should happen to him and his wife, i would raise his son.. i have a very close relationship with the boy, he is 7 and smart as a whip.
Thanks for all of your comments.
I can also appreciate both sides of the discussion - Mrs restrangled and Scully was especially interesting.
I will stand by my decision and attend the meeting, however I will take the advice of coming only to hear his talk and then I will leave right after.
My wife's decision is based on her own beliefs. She too is an ex dub. We meet after we both had left the Borg, and one reason we bonded so quickly is because we both shared very similar experiences of growing up in the "lie".
Our families are very close and as I stated before, we were chosen to raise their son in the event of his parents death, something we did not do when it came to the welfare of our daughter.
My goal is to be there for him when he becomes old enough to make his own decisions about his religion and be his ally, something that I didn't have as a child.
Since both my wife and I faded, we were never DFed or DAed, we have manitained some old relationships.
We give this child birthday presents and Christmas presents every year, so he is aware that we don't co-sign on to his parents religious beliefs.
Quite frankly if he was older, 13 or 14 I probably would just explain to him that I disagree with what his parents believe in and leave it that, but at 7, I think he is just too young to comprehend that my absence is not about him, but the religion.
I am also hoping that maybe his parents will view this as a compromise on my part and maybe they will make some compromises in the future that might open their eyes to the truth about the Borg.
Thanks again for your comments.
i have a very close friend, who is still an active dub.
we have known each other since we were kids and we have been able to maintain a strong friendship - we are actually more like brothers than friends.. we have reached a truce - i don't try to talk him out of being a dub and he doesn't try to talk me out of being an apostate.. we have both worked hard to honor this rule.. my problem is, i am the "godfather" of his son.
meaning if something should happen to him and his wife, i would raise his son.. i have a very close relationship with the boy, he is 7 and smart as a whip.
Onthewayout - my wife agrees with you.