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  Another peek at my EMAIL: more shunning "tearing families apart"

  by Quotes in

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  i feel like i have come full circle on this issue.

  now, i am the one giving the advice instead of requesting it!

  here is a letter i received as the proprietor of http://quotes.watchtower.ca.

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  Holy cow, did this guy's letter blow me away. This could have been my very family, 5 years ago. My aunt (pioneer) and uncle (elder) decided not to attend my wedding reception since my apostate mom would be there. (But my ceremony was fine? She was there too.) When aunt MB told me their decision over the phone, I was devastated. I could tolerate my mom being shunned, it was her choice, she knew the rules when she left. But for them to do this to me?? I tearfully told her that night that if she chose to do this, I would treat her the same way.

  And I have. I've shunned right back at my aunt and uncle. They have a son, my cousin J. And I treat him with as much love and warmth as I ever would. But do you all think I'm wrong on this note? It isn't very christian of myself to play the tit for tat game.

  Quotes, this is a very sad case indeed. I know first hand how much this rips a family in 2. My Gramps won't ever see his whole family together in a room again. Not unless he sticks around to watch his own funeral.

  ~A
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  New Wave JW's . . . I sort of got a chuckle out of this one.

  by Corvin in

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  2. beliefs

  the apostates over at e-watchman's forum are dillusional .

  first class spiritual nutjobs, if you will.

  we know they do not consider themselves to be apostate, but they believe they will do the most good by staying in the organization so that when the foundations of the society are shaken, and they believe it will happen soon, they will be there to aid and comfort the jw's who don't know what to do or where to go.

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  Its chuckle worthy, however,

  I guess I'm not as cynical as some of you. I'll have to respectfully disagree, that those folks are as "bad" as a lot of the hard liners that run the show. I for sure don't view the majority of them as hypocrites. I too lived in that world for the last couple years before my removal. Thinking that all it would take is my generation reaching the decision making stage. Then things would be set on the right track. I agreed with the basic theologies of JW, but had a serious problem with the governing. I never talked out of one side of my face, though, and acted in a different manner. Guess thats why they got rid of my dissenting @ss. Bad influence.

  Sort of like this....I agree with democracy, but I don't like the Shrub administration or some of their implemented programs. Room 215 says it best in my view...

  my opinion strictly.

  ~Snap

  Corvin, I'm glad to see that I actually disagree with you on something here. I was starting to wonder if you had some weird sway with me. Its that sexy crow-like avatar you've got. Phew, I'm still my own person.
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  An apology to you all...

  by CeriseRose in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just finished commenting on minimus' thread (oh man, i hope it was his thread now...not enough coffee yet to be fully brained today...).

  anyway, it was the thread on how everyone was choosing to leave/has left from the org.

  i hate with a passion the fact that i was judged while in the wts.

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  Cerise, this was very thoughtful. I completely understand your motivation. I used to sit at meetings and think the same thing. You put my own thoughts down beautifully.

  Feisoul, welcome. You're currently living in my favorite place in the whole world. I visited Bern and Interloken 3 years ago. I never wanted to leave. You're amoungst many friends here.

  ~Snapdragon
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  Name a ridiculious quote from the WT literature!

  by badboy in

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  any takers?

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  Snapdragon

  TD-

  Huhhh? Do you understand what that means? If so please translate. Looks like Klingon to me.

  ~Snapdragon
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  witness connections wisconsin

  by bavman in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been connected with jw's my whole life.

  i would be interested in meeting or talking with anyone who has connection with wisconsin jw's.

  if u know anyone at all from wisconsin please leave me message in my box.. .

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  kls, you made me laugh pretty hard. It's difficult to pretend like I'm on official business at work, on the computer, when I read stuff like that!

  Your pup is welcome any time. I've got rabbit proof fences around anything I care about. Little Mr. (my pooch) doesn't have the inclination to dig or shred much. I'm not so sure he's really dog at all. Maybe a combination pig-cat.

  Anyway, I'm sure all the yellow spots in your lawn highly accentuate the long green grass growing around them, with all this spring rain we've been having.

  ~A
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  They just dont get it do they?..

  by flower in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i saw my family this past weekend while visiting my home state for a few days.

  its almost comical at this point how terrified my own siblings are of me.

  like they cant even look me in the eye when they talk ....its so sad.

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  Flower, you are a great mom. I'm so glad that the world's cutest kid got you for a mama. I'm sure you'll be teaching him how to truely love and accept people. Whether or not you're religious, christian, etc, there is a great moral story to take from the scriptures. Having been raised a witness I know you know what I'm talking about.

  ~A

  Side note:

  Isn't it a bit ironic though, that the world's cutest kid's mom, and the world's cutest puppy's mom, ended up on the same forum?? Hmmmm. Divine intervention?
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  witness connections wisconsin

  by bavman in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been connected with jw's my whole life.

  i would be interested in meeting or talking with anyone who has connection with wisconsin jw's.

  if u know anyone at all from wisconsin please leave me message in my box.. .

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  Hi neighbors, awesome spring we're having, no?

  kls, do you garden? And if you do, are your flowers as spectacular as mine, right now?

  Bavman, I'm from the Madison area. I haven't been to meetings or conventions in a few years now. But I'll answer what ever questions you'd like.

  Evesapple, which congregation did you go to? My uncle was an elder at Creston Park until recently. He had to step down because of my very very naughty cousin. He he. Don't you get a guilty pleasure out of seeing some of the holier than thou's humbled?

  ~A
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  CZAR's Latest Humiliation - this one's military!

  by czarofmischief in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yes yes, ladies and gents, i was a'walking and a'talking mighty strong, but it turns out that old age is a'bitin me in the arse.. well, i went down to the navy recruiter.

  i'm not eligible for joining the navy for two reasons:.

  1) i have been on antidepressants.

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  Snapdragon

  Hey Czar, ever thought of moving out here to Wisconsin? With all these people getting bariatric surgery, we're losing too much weight. We need a few good, tubby depressed people! And we're a lot more fun than the navy. Do you like lutefisk?

  So what's the plan now, since you aren't allowed on the boats?

  ~A
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  I AM NEW

  by shana97490 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello every body,.

  i'd like to introduce myself, i hope you will well understand me (indeed, iam a 23 yeas old french girl).. i am very happy to see that several personn has lived the seam experience has me so they are abble to understand better what i feel and who can help us to live better ans follow our way forward life(i hope you will understand what i mean).. i was born in a jw's family, and when i got 12 i begin to ask me some question and have some doubts about this ''thruth".. when i begin to have my boyfriend (not jw) i had to lie...we stayed 4 year together but i never had sexual relation because i was affraid of consequency (even if i was not baptized).

  but every times "brother and sisters" told lies to my parents, about me and about what i was doing with my boyfriend (but we never did anything).

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  Snapdragon

  I could have been reading my own biography. Welcome, you already have many friends here.

  I've been where you are, and I understand how you feel. While I wasn't baptised either, my whole life was spent growing up as a witness. You'd think I was disfellowshipped the way my congregation crosses the street to avoid me...

  If you need anything, please private text me.

  On a side note: I was in Paris with my husband in May of 2001. We were just celebrating our three year anniversary of our backpacked europe trip.

  Too bad I didn't know you then, you could have helped us avoid some of our amazingly naive american mistakes!

  Again, welcome,

  ~A
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  The Missing Link - remains of the Nephilim?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those of you that have seen recent documentarys (i can't remember the program names), there seems to be a few finds of importance regarding man's earliest ancestors.. .

  one documentary i watched was about the discovery of an unusual skeleton, they suggested it was a bipedal - it walked on two legs.

  but, the jaw and other parts of the skeleton were not completely human like.. .

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  Anyone read Greg Bear's "Darwin's Radio"? I'm reading it right now and it somewhat deals with a few issues raised here. In particular the "hybrid baby". It is a work of fiction, but very good, for any sci-fi fans out there. And it poses a few disturbing questions about evolution v. creationism.

  ~A

  Sci-fi nerd, extrodinaire