due to the negative connotations that result from the word "apostate".
how about if from here and now we consider ourselves antipathetics instead.
what do you think simon & all?
Due to the negative connotations that result from the word "Apostate". How about if from here and now we consider ourselves Antipathetics instead. What do you think Simon & All? The word apostate because of how it's viewed turns my stomach.
What say you?
Dismembered
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my name is cynthia... i have had depression as a child ( undiagnosed ) father was possibly bipolar and mother is depressive both undiagnosed.....my journry into the org along with how the depression became a mental breakdown , which i thought was jehovah removing his spirirt.
my sruggle with the elders......and the many ways and people i sought help from.....well it is all a long story......... included in it.
jws i have known with mental health issues.......breakdowns.......psych docs have had discussed this with........ i would like to relate my story.....i was so ill..nearly catotonic i did not go to a hospital but if i relate how i felt.........it was clear...... how i was afraid of crossing the street because the green light may have been really a red light and i was told so often by the elders that my thinking was wrong...... ie " they were showing love by isolating me ( a depressed person) because i needed to be active and i was not complying..they said they tried ll that they coudl when in reality it was i always i that reached out to them ( thinking they were chosen of god)...... well..i just gave a sampler....my story is very long...i have been tenatious i read so much ( even before becoming a jw ) about depression and dysfunctional families... i was a teacher did not gte my ma ..people here know why i am sure..... well...before i write this story of mine...i would like to ask..if i can do it in intallments........those i relate my story to say i should write a book..........i am not " out of the woods yet".........by the way.......i came to the point that i could not leave my room..... i live in nyc and i was able to speak to bethel elders including g. gangus.... i was very sincere......naive idealistic.............i asked qiestions thinking that surly god understood ...that my motives were good... .
Cyn Welcome & Do it in installments. i'm looking foward to it
my name is cynthia... i have had depression as a child ( undiagnosed ) father was possibly bipolar and mother is depressive both undiagnosed.....my journry into the org along with how the depression became a mental breakdown , which i thought was jehovah removing his spirirt.
my sruggle with the elders......and the many ways and people i sought help from.....well it is all a long story......... included in it.
jws i have known with mental health issues.......breakdowns.......psych docs have had discussed this with........ i would like to relate my story.....i was so ill..nearly catotonic i did not go to a hospital but if i relate how i felt.........it was clear...... how i was afraid of crossing the street because the green light may have been really a red light and i was told so often by the elders that my thinking was wrong...... ie " they were showing love by isolating me ( a depressed person) because i needed to be active and i was not complying..they said they tried ll that they coudl when in reality it was i always i that reached out to them ( thinking they were chosen of god)...... well..i just gave a sampler....my story is very long...i have been tenatious i read so much ( even before becoming a jw ) about depression and dysfunctional families... i was a teacher did not gte my ma ..people here know why i am sure..... well...before i write this story of mine...i would like to ask..if i can do it in intallments........those i relate my story to say i should write a book..........i am not " out of the woods yet".........by the way.......i came to the point that i could not leave my room..... i live in nyc and i was able to speak to bethel elders including g. gangus.... i was very sincere......naive idealistic.............i asked qiestions thinking that surly god understood ...that my motives were good... .
Welcome Cyn Again
ok, everyone knows i'm new here, thank you all for being so nice to me!.
i keep reading how alot of you in here talk about scandles, and how the gb is a bunch of crap, yada yada.... well, i really need to know what exactly you guys are talking about.. is there anyone that can fill me in on this, maybe give me sites to look at, or email me info that will satisfy me on this subject?.
i feel like if i get all the info i need on things like this and others, it will help me get over my " guilt" feelings, and such, so i can knock out that asshole in the back of my mind that keeps telling me i'm in the wrong here!!
Hi curiouschristy
My advice to you is to read some of the threads that people have responded to. Also do a word search on something that might interest you. i.e. Governing Body, Leo Greenless(former member of the GB) etc.
Dismembered
Edited by - Dismembered on 14 September 2002 11:25:9
i have a very extensive library of wt.
publications.
i see how many of you got rid of the books and mags.
I use them to stand on like a ladder when I can't reach sometin'
in 1989 i was in my freshman year of high school.
i became interested in the girl who was a jw.
basically you can tell what happen from here.
Sgame said : Also please dont listen to most of the people on this board. They think that Jehovahs witnesses are a cult. Why? Because the witnesses do what the bible tells them to do and these other people dont like to be told what to do. It makes me sick really.
Sgame you are making typical, shallow, dogmatic Jdub remarks. If the people here think JW's are a cult, then you need to find out why. And perhaps many here have been told what to do by the "Mother Organization" for years. Take time to do some research. Try not to start off on the wrong foot here.
P.S.
It's Saturday, why don't you go "save lives" with your W&A magazines!
Dismembered but not Dismembered
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this is my first time posting.
i have been reading all the post for about 6 months.
i now have gotten up enough nerve to post.
Welcome Sister Grace
last week we enjoyed a thread where many discussed the pros and cons of dubdom and comments have been made that exjws can be overtaken with negativity, and that this board displays far too much malice towards the r&f.
a view is held that the r&f are really nice people and they are innocent of sins committed by the borg.
the argument goes that individuals, whether on the gb or publishers in a local congregation, are all victims of some organisational spirit.
I agree
i have been outta the society for over 10 years, but i somehow feel like i'm doing something wrong.
when i come on this site... why is that??
how could jw's and the wbts have such a hold on people, it's unreal.
Hi curiouschristy,
Stay the feelings will subside. Oh and Welcome!
preaching, to a witness is the most important assignment that god gives.as a matter of fact, if you don't preach you are bloodguilty before god.if you don't cover the territory properly, you are bloodguilty.
if you didn't keep proper records, you were bloodguilty.if you didn't do not-at-homes, you were bloodguilty.if you didn't return to talk to a return visit within the week, you were bloodguilty.
obviously, we could never reach all persons with the "truth".
Min,
Do I feel guilty? Yes I'm curled up in the fetal position sucking my thumb from not preachin'
Sweating bullets. Please someone HELP. Get me Twatchtower!
