fiddler
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Trashed WT's found in Dr.s' waiting room Friday. Do you trash literature you find?
by Wasanelder Once intook the magazines in the waiting room and dumped them in the trash.
was a great feeling.
to think many witnoids wont dare throw out the surplus magazines they have in stacks around the house is amazing.
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fiddler
Print up address lables that say jwfacts.com and stick them in front cover of books and mags. There are two neighborhood book exchange boxes around my neighborhood and the dubs regularly deposit their trash in them. i'd rather discreetly stick a label in a book than toss them? Did the same with laundrymat mags. -
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TO THE STUPID ATHEISTS:
by atheist_R_stupid inbeing that this is not "ex jws" and in fact, more driven by atheists talking a bunch of crap, im not even going to address you people like you know anything about jws because you dont.
nor am i going to assume you know the bible because none of you do.. and yes, im speaking down at you all because you men have actually went out your way to make a site to speak down at an entire group of people.
yet i bet you cant even handle a single uswer talking down at you, like you talk down about jws can you?.
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fiddler
Loved the foodie suggestions....delish!
Was that a fly buzzing around?
did somebody swat it?
hope so.
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Lets pretend jw's disappeared
by atheist_R_stupid inand joined your ranks.... this means...youre talking about a people, that currently are pushing no sex till marriage.
that would end and join into the messages you currently push regarding youths and sex.
that would be sex, with condoms.
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fiddler
ARs, lots of people read and are very well versed in the Bible. You obviously haven't met them because you probably keep your association just with other JW's and not other Christians and or neighbors in the community? They are all around you.
The best I can respond to you is to suggest that you get to know your neighbors or try visiting some local churches or community events. Take off the prideful arrogant self righteous glasses you have on and humbly get to know more people that are not JW. The qualities that make any single JW a good person are not exclusive to their religion and in fact, your JW religion tends to create some very negative traits in some of its members, namely...prideful, self righteous arrogance.
(I will stop feeding the 'T' now)
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Lets pretend jw's disappeared
by atheist_R_stupid inand joined your ranks.... this means...youre talking about a people, that currently are pushing no sex till marriage.
that would end and join into the messages you currently push regarding youths and sex.
that would be sex, with condoms.
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fiddler
A person choosing to be a Christian is not at issue. The people who get together and study the Bible and follow it' so called moral code are not the problem. All 8 million of the rank and file witness could continue to do that. It's the corporate machine,the Watchtower with its various corporate entities that are objectionable. Remove that! Let the people read the Bible and reason on it with their own adult minds and not just sit and be told what to believe without question. If in doing that some decide that they don't believe in the Bible so be it. That doesn't mean that they automatically become 'fornicators' or 'adulterers' or abortion proponents or politically active, and on and on with the things you listed. Husbands and wives and whole families have left the jW religion and have gone on with their lives....living good moral lives even without the Bible. We don't care whether they come to this site or any other. We do care that millions of people are systematically being told to just 'listen and obey' a group of men who are at the core part of a religious corporation that is trying to maintain its wealth at their (the rank and file witnesses) expense. Get rid of the corporation(s) and if you want, get back to examining the scriptures individually and researching ALL things, not just JW publications. -
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Estimation for people who have lived since Adam
by James Mixon in69-110 billion, 90% of the people who've ever lived are dead.
that's a lot of folks to be resurrected.
take away we who are apostates (a million or two) that still leave 67-110 billion.. raining down manna from heaven will not cut the mustard for 100 billion people, there is not much you can do with manna, manna bread, manna tacos, manna soup and manna sweet cakes.. there is not enough resources to to house and feed 100 billion people, 7-8 billion today.. i'am not a economist or mathematician but the resurrection will create a whole set of new problems for mankind.. it becomes a bigger problem when you figure in those folks the lived before adam that the bible forgot to mention..
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fiddler
Which 'Adam' are we talking about...or 'Eve'?
the numbers would be lower by far if you are only counting from 4,000 (+a few) years ago. But if you are counting from 'Eve out of Africa' then 108,000,000 doesn't sound too high.
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ancient ruins
by crazyguy1 inthey have discovered a temple complex in turkey they call gobekli tepi and another in southern iran they tentatively call arata.
both of these sites were discovered in the last decade or two and are being dated to older then 12000 years ago.
can anyone explain how they go about dating these site since carbon 14 dating doesnt work on stone and theres no patina or very little since these places were buried?
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fiddler
Gobekli Tepe is one of my favorite ancient sites to read about. Thank you HalfBanana for the info on the various ways dating is accomplished. JW's are quick to jump on just one method of dating, carbon 14 but they don't consider for a moment when various forms of dating all come up with the same conclusion about dates. I am quite jealous (in a good way) that you have had 'boots on the ground' investigating ancient sites! And really...Neanderthal tools on your desk!! Get outta here! That's great.
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"You insulted our Prophet" similarities with WTS / Paris attacks
by AFRIKANMAN in"this is from the nov. 15th 1952 question from readers.
this is directly from the cd btw:
questions from readers in the case of where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshipped ,how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship?p.c.,ontario, canada.
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fiddler
Ok, I think this is what I was thinking of as being more recent, a Study edition Watchtower from 2011. Sorry for the cut and paste, I took the quote from another site. I really hate clicking on the official site!
Nov 15, 2011 WT - "The prophet Elisha sent one of the sons of the prophets to anoint Jehu as king and to intruct him to kill every male of the apostate house of Ahab.—2 Ki. 8:28; 9:1-10." "Though the thought of violence is unpleasant, we should realize that in those days, Jehovah used his servants to carry out his judgments.... Today, no servant of Jehovah uses physical force against opponents of pure worship. “Vengeance is mine,” God says. (Heb.10:30) But to rid the congregation of potentially corrupting influences, Christian elders may have to act with courage similar to that of Jehu. (1 Cor. 5:9-13) And all members of the congregation need to be determined to avoid the company of disfellowshipped individuals.— 2 John 9-11." "Jehu announced that he intended to hold “a great sacrifice” for Baal. (2 Ki. 10:18, 19) “This is a clever play on words on the part of Jehu,” says one scholar. While the term employed here “generally means ‘sacrifice,’ it is also used of the ‘slaughter’ of apostates.” "It is true that Jehu spilled much blood. Yet, the Scriptures present him as a courageous man.
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"You insulted our Prophet" similarities with WTS / Paris attacks
by AFRIKANMAN in"this is from the nov. 15th 1952 question from readers.
this is directly from the cd btw:
questions from readers in the case of where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshipped ,how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship?p.c.,ontario, canada.
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fiddler
JW's don't kill outright today but that comparrison to how apostates should be viewed was given just a few years ago again. Maybe somebody here has the quote...
I do agree that the mindset is much the same. The absoluteness of their cutting off family members viewed as apostate is because they already consider them as dead and slain by Jehovah. It's a mindset that leads to depression and mental imbalance and for some JW's that see no other way, they do kill.
The Paris tragedy is at the far end of the spectrum but completely cutting off apostate family members is at the other end of the same spectrum IMO.
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Islam is a religion of Peace
by Coded Logic inwarning: poes law may apply.
i just wanted to take a moment and remind everyone that all muslims are good people.
"real" muslims would never kill in the name of their religion .
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fiddler
Just my two cents worth, but the core problem with the jihadist mentality is rooted in a belief system that is dying along with fundementalist Bible based belirf systems...they are part of an old religious thought form and they are fighting like wild animals to stay alive all the while being penned in by evolving spiritual ideals and social structures that label them as barbaric.
And they are IMO.
But they will keep breaking out and killing and hurting people until they finally die.
Personally I look at these things as acts perpetrated by very unevolved people but time will tell...survival of the fittest anyone? I certainly hope that love and compassion prove to be stronger in the final outcome. Sometimes it feels like common sense and goodwill are losing the battle but although a few persons who commit heinous acts make the news there are many acts of kindness and compassion happening that don't make the news.
Yes, survival of the fittest!
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NEW LIGHT ALERT! TARGET 2015 END TIMES! EVE WAS CREATED 40 YEARS AFTER ADAM! THE END IS NEAR!
by Trailer Park Pioneer inthis is going around the kingdom halls now, i thought it was a hoax but are not all the end time dates produced by the organization some hoax or con?
the reason why the end did not come in 1975 was the watchtower society had not put eve's creation in their equation.
i was told when we had a "meet and greet" if "we knew the date of eve's creation we would know the year jehovah was going to destroy the earth.. it's been 40 years since 1975, can you believe it's been 40 years since "stay alive till 1975!"?
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fiddler
These people trying to calculate a year are just desparate Iggitts!
As the saying goes around here, 'wash, rince, repeat'