I am Episcopalian (Anglican). Some commedians have referred to our church as "Catholic Lite." Does that count?
Athanasius
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Any EXJW Catholic's?
by Wordly Andre inif so hello!
and how many of you are doing the christmas novena?
wife and i started ours on dec 16th.
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They want to make me an elder :-O
by outofthebox inthis is the third elder that tells me that the body of elders will recommend me as an elder in the next visit of the co.. what do you think i should do?
some facts:.
i am still 'in' because of my family.i am ms.i am doing 10+ fake hours (well, some months it is fake), so they see my "spiritual" progress.-ootb.
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Athanasius
You have been given a lot of advice by the many posters here, but you will have to make the final decision. Its not an easy decision to make. I know, because 20 years ago I was in a similar situation.
I had served as an elder for almost 10 years before I learned the truth about the "truth" by reading Crisis of Conscience. I didn't resign right away because I thought I could do some good as a "double agent." I even had an "apostate" friend who I kept informed about the local BOE and the latest info from Brooklyn. I had to be careful about our clandestine meetings, making sure I wasn't followed.
During this time I served on several JCs and was able to influence the other members of the committee to be more compassionate toward those who appeared before us. As a result we didn't Df anyone but gave private reproof.
There were also a couple of cases of suspected "apostasy" in the congregation and I was selected to lead the investigation. Here I was able to manipulate the evidence and discredit the witnesses who brought the charges so the investigation led nowhere. Unfortunately there was a sister in the congregation who had become vocal in her criticism of the "Organization." But guess who was on the committee that tried her case? The other members put me in charge of the investigation, and of course I gave her a clean bill of health and no action was taken against her at the time. However, a year after I left another JC was formed and the poor sister was Dfd.
After about 9 months I decided to resign and get on with my life. My "apostate handler" asked me stay on, saying I could do more good on the inside. But I felt that I had done enough and it was time to fade away from the totalitarian Watchtower society and escape to the free world.
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Male or Female?
by serendipity indo you prefer working for a male or a female?
why ?
i'll post my answer later.
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Athanasius
In the past I've had good and bad bosses of both sexes. So for me gender doesn't really matter. What does is competance and personality.
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Bible Study Arrangement at Hall
by KW13 inremember how the bible study was conducted at the hall?
they had bible highlights then focused on a particular chapter.
was this done in such a way so as to take attention away from scriptures that could bring up red-flags in the minds of jw's, letting the dodgy bits be skipped over?.
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Athanasius
I totally agree with you Reneesorym. Bible study in church is so much more enlightening than at the Kingdom Hall.
Moreover, they could never have a verse by verse Bible study at the Kingdom Hall like they do in the churches because such a study would show that the Watchtower takes the Scriptures out of context. That is why during the KH meetings the JWs are always flipping through their Bibles rather than focusing on a Bible book and studying one chapter at a time until the book is completed. Something that would take months if done properly.
The priest who conducts the Bible study at my church is fluent in New Testament Greek, which is something you would never see at the Kingdom Hall.
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Athanasius
Lawrence of Arabia.
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Has anyone ever sent mail to the members of the Governing Body?
by What-A-Coincidence inif so, did you get a reply?
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Athanasius
I once sent a letter to GB member Lloyd Barry requesting biographical information on J. F. Rutherford. However, I didn't get a personal reply. Just a form letter with the Watchtower rubber stamped signature.
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Would the blood ban be lifted if more men were dying of blood loss?
by Gill inthe watchtower did not wait too long to make factor viii a conscience matter for haemophiliac men.
i believe it happened inthe late 1970's but i'm sure someone would correct me if i am wrong on the date.. but, the blanket blood ban continues and women are still dying in childbirth unncecessarily around the world because they are jws.
if the boot were on the other foot, would blood transfusion be a conscience matter by now to keep jw men safe?.
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Athanasius
I agree with Terry. The Watchtower is aware of the possible legal ramifications should they change their policy on blood transfusions and so will leave the present policy in place regardless of how many men, women, and children are affected.
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Has a GB member ever died from refusing blood?
by LtCmd.Lore inhas a governing body member ever died from refusing blood products?.
and do you think he would if the problem arose?
or do you think there would be some quick 'new light' on the subject?.
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Athanasius
Hi Hamsterbait, You and several other posters have referred to the former Watchtower president as "Nathan Homo Knorr." Is that a joke or a referrence to this sexual orientation?
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What has everyone done with your literature, now that you've left?
by momzcrazy ini have boxes of literature upstairs.
i was waiting for bookshelves to get built in our new house, but now i don't want to put them all up.
i have sentimental things, like ones that were my dad's.
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Athanasius
Burning books reminds me too much of Nazi Germany. So I sold my bound volumes to a JW Min. Servant for $120.00. I kept the AID book, The Bible In Living English, Rutherford and Russell's books, and the large edition NWT. Some of the more recent publications I donated to Goodwill and Salvation Army and wrote the market value off on my income tax, which wasn't much as Watchtower publications are so common. My ex-wife took the rest.
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What Did You Actually Do At Meetings?
by minimus inwere you a note taker?
did you truly listen??
were you a daydreamer?
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Athanasius
Sometimes I would compare the Scriptures cited in other Bible versions like The New English Bible or the Jerusalem Bible. It was very hard for me to stay awake at meetings. Even when I conducted the Watchtower Study it was difficult to stay awake because the material was so boring. At least with the Public Talks that we gave at the time we were able to sneek in some of our own material which broke the monotony. I feel sorry for today's JWs who don't even have that option for their Public Talks.