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  Went to District Convention this weekend with no Badge brother talks in 3rd person to Witnesses "Who's this guy? A study? WTF

  by Witness 007 in

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  a brother who's a friend of mine introduces me...but i have no "keep on the watch" badge so he stares at me...then where the badge should be...then back at me...turns to the brother with me ignoring me and says "who's this guy?

  is he a study.." he had a smug ass#ole look on his face.

  like people without badges can't talk.

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  You might try visiting the KH with an American flag pin in your lapel. In 2003 I visited a KH during the Memorial. I dressed conservatively, suit and tie, but I also wore an American Flag lapel pin. The JWs were very friendly, finding me a seat, loaning me a songbook, even telling me of their free home bible study program. They treated me like royalty. I've done this at other KHs with the same result. You would be surprised at the JW reaction to "Old Glory."

  Outside the USA you should use the flag pin of the country where the KH is located.
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  Theodore Jaracz Update

  by Japster in

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  latest news is that tj is up and around but is living in a house on the wallkill properties.. he is being tended to by a group of the societies doctors and nurses to make sure that he is continuing to improve.. shucks, guess he may be around giving orders for some time yet.. japster.

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  Could be that Teddy doesn't really believe in the Watchtower's doctrinal system. Is it possible that he secretly believes in Hellfire and knows that that is where he will end up? Or does he really believe "that this life is all there is?"
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  Dennis Rodman a Former Jehovah's Witness?...

  by Tuesday in

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  i just came across something saying that one of his adopted parents was a jw and he was raised one as well.. there's something about ex-jws that just go against the flow of what's expected of them.

  there's the wayans, latoya jackson, patti smith, xzibit.. i also read that dwight d. eisenhauer left, but not only left openly spoke out against it's teachings.

  can anyone verify this?

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  Former President Dwight Eisenhower had six brothers, Edgar, Earl, Milton, Arthur, Roy, and Paul. Paul died in infancy. See Mandate For Change by Dwight D. Eisenhower, page 32. None of the Eisenhower brothers adopted their mother's religion. The Eisenhower who was Branch servant in Artentina was no relation, or at best a distant relative.
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  Old Footage Of Pastor Russell

  by Bangalore in

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  Hi Bangalore. Thanks for posting. It is interesting how much the late Freddy Franz's voice and mannerisms were so like C. T. Russell.
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  Lurkers Please Read

  by IWillBeDubbedNoMore in

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  the definition of an apostate is one who has abandoned his religious faith.

  i was baptized in 1974. the religion i joined believed that jesus selected the bible students in 1919 to do a separating work.

  we had to preach to find the sheep like ones.

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  Athanasius

  Interesting post Renaiaa.

  One Yahweh--unchanged

  No imortal soul--unchanged

  Jesus is God's son--unchanged

  No hellfire--unchanged

  These are core Christadelphian beliefs, and the Christadelphian Church is older than the Jehovah's Witness church. However, the Christadelphians don't flip flop on their other beliefs like the Watchtower does.
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  Recently disfellowshipped prominent Assembly overseer in Western Europe now speaking out against the Watchtower org.

  by the research lady in

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  former elder, and assembly overseer roberto from france will be joining barbara and joe anderson on tonight's conference call, july 18,2009. roberto was disfellowshipped in june 2009 and after many faithful years of service is now joining thousands of others who are speaking out against the evils of the watchtower organization.

  our call tonight will be focused on how the country of france, as well as other european countries are investigating jehovah's witnesses.

  the watchtower organization is experiencing difficulties in these countries for the inhumane treatment and exerting too much control over people's lives.

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  Hi Renaiaa. I doubt that you will ever answer this, but why do you defend the Jehovah's Witness organization when they won't accept you as a member in good standing? You spend all your time on this forum and leave no time for meeting attendance, personal study, and field service. You can never become a Jehovah's Witness in good standing unless you do.
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  My Assignment For Ray Franz

  by sacolton in

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  today i met the widow of ed dunlap, who was of the watchtower writing committee and a great thinker.

  he found that the watchtower was not in harmony with the scriptures, so they disfellowshipped him.

  when ray franz was disfellowshipped, it was ed who took him in and gave ray a job and a place to stay.

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  Ed Dunlap never served on the Governing Body, but he was one of the Watchtower's best writers. He wrote the Commentary on the Letter Of James, one of the Watchtower's better publications. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think this is the only Bible commentary published by the Watchtower.

  I was sorry to hear of Ed's passing. It is good to hear that his wife is doing well.
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  The truth is that the reason my wife and I left was bound up with "Making the Truth Our Own"

  by gubberningbody in

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  you get contacted, you come in, you learn the bible their way, then you learn the bible your way and then you leave.. you make the truth your own..

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  Hi Reniaa. I agree with you about the benefits of group Bible study. In fact my church has group Bible study where all who attend can participate and share their observations of the Scripture reading. However, it is a free Bible study where the Bible is allowed to speak to each of us. It is not the study of a magazine where the questions are found at the bottom of the page and the answers are in the paragraphs above.
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  What can I say to JW's about Michael Jackson's life and death?

  by BonaFide in

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  as an active witness, i am still in association with witnesses in field service, meetings, and occasionally at get-togethers.

  we usually go to eat at a restaurant after the sunday meeting.. so tomorrow i am sure we will be talking about michael jackson.

  i live in southern california, and i know one sister in our usual group has met mj's mother, and is very supportive of her.

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  Athanasius

  Hi Reinna,

  From reading your first post on this topic I get the impression that you feel that if someone of another religion tries to convert a Jehovah's Witness that it is an act of hate. Strange. Even when I was an active JW I never viewed a Christian's attempt to convert me as a hate crime.

  I asked you this before, but never got an answer. Do you think that persons of other religions should have the same freedom to proselytize Jehovahs Witnesses as the Witnesses claim for themselves?
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  Committee Meeting Wants Details, oh BS

  by Leprechaun in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember when i like a real stupid ass went to a committee meeting for enjoying committing so called immorality, when in my view i was making love and i enjoyed every dam minute of it.

  well any way those stupid elders whom i knew personally for many years wanted to know every juicy (no pun intended) tid bit of what went on between me and this good friend of mine, a long time sister in good standing, i told them what the hell, you guys dont know what sex is!

  you stupid asss!

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  Athanasius

  I remember serving on a JC that was considering the reinstatement of a sister who had been disfellowshipped by another congregation's JC. We noted her repentant attitude and recommended that she be reinstated. Afterward she thanked our JC for not requesting that she explain all the gory details about the sexual act that caused the other JC to DF her.

  Being aware that some JCs went too far in their request for intimate details of "sexual wrongdoing," any JC that I served on I made sure that such questions were not asked of the person. What do these details have to do with the person's repentence? However, there were elders who got their jollys off asking such intimate questions.