Born in, so my JW mother insisted I get baptised. Was only 9 years old when I got dunked. Though I knew another born in who was only 6 when he was baptised.
Athanasius
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How old were you when baptized?
by Coded Logic ini was baptized at the age of 11. like most of us, my commitment wasnt to honor god but rather i was gang pressed into the service of the wtbts.
and, at such a young age, it was impossible for me to appreciate the enormity of my actions.
honestly, how could i possibly have known any better?
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Please do not send your Elders to my house!
by Pinku inthis was the last sentence my dad wrote to gb in his letter explaining why he is disassociating from jws.
it seems gb did not send copy of the letter to the body of elders!
sometime later two elders visited him to encourage him to rethink his decision.
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Athanasius
Wonder if Freddie Franz was one of those who was afraid to die.
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Athanasius
A former bethelite once told me that Mrs. Knorr said their marriage was never consumated.
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I still love Kingdom Melodies.
by POs Son inok, at the risk of getting flamed, i have been out for over 20 years, and still love kingdom melodies.
i remember them for the good times, the conventions and assemblies, hearing the orchestral versions, imagining the orchestra playing.
some pieces were really nice.
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Athanasius
I left the JWs in 1984 just after they got the new "baby sh_t brown" song book. But I remember the lavender coloured song book which still had a few Christian hymns. We were told that all the new songs were written by JWs and that anything that had originated in Christendom was deleted.
My grandmother had and old Bible Student hymnal and it was similar to any hymnal that you would find in a traditional Christian Church.
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Why The Watchtower Must Abolish Judicial Committees
by metatron insome years ago, i upset some crypto-watchtower apologists by stating that the organization must eventually either abolish the co arrangement or radically change it because it creates a direct chain of liability by chain of command and makes them a hierarchy (without catholic level assets or influence to support such a structure).. i would make a similar argument with regard to judicial committees.
i do not contend that the watchtower would get rid of these repellent anachronisms simply because they are unethical in form and use but rather that they represent an increasing liability/obstacle to the organization's survival.. why?.
1) such committees tend to open up all sorts of legal challenges and dangers.
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Athanasius
Isn't the CO still appointed by the GB? If this is still the case, then the Borg would still be legally liable, as the CO is their appointee. However, if the CO was elected by the elders of the Circuit he would be their man. Any problems that would result could be considered a local problem, and not involve the Watchtower Corp.
It's doubtful that the GB would relinquish their power by giving the local elders the opportunity to choose their own CO. It could even lead to the local congregations electing their own elders.
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Members of the writing department has resigned
by hardtobeme inthis is what i found at anointedjw.org.
i don't know if it's true.
on august 25, 2014, we received the following comment and inquiry: .
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Athanasius
While it's possible that several members of the WT writing department resigned, I seriously doubt that any members of the current GB have any pangs of conscience. The new GB members are hardcore party hacks, groomed by Ted Jarecz and selected by him. Any conscience, if they had one to begin with, was left behind when they were appointed to leadership positions in the Borg.
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Did anyone else feel the Nor Cal earthquake?
by LisaRose ini got woken up by a very strong quake at 3:30 this morning.
it was 6.0 centered about ten miles from my house, up in napa, ca.
we had no damage, but it definitely gets you it of bed!
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Athanasius
We live about 40 miles west of Napa and we felt the quake. At first we thought a large animal had jumped on the roof as the noise woke us up. Fortunately there was no damage.
My wife's family in San Francisco also felt the quake.
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Who Really Profits from the WTBTS?
by Freedom77 inlike they say in the movies, "follow the money.
" the thought occurred to me the other day - the wt scam rakes in billions of dollars, and yeah some of that goes to operations and equipment.
but bethelites at farm and factory get only a bare little dorm room and a monthly pittance.
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Athanasius
It would be easy to follow the money if only someone could get hold of the Watchtower's financial records, especially their Accounts Payable ledger. It would be interesting to see what they are paying their suppliers for paper, ink, etc. It would also be revealing to see what they pay to outside maintenance contractors. If the Watchtower pays twice the going rate for their paper and ink to the Rich JW Paper Company for example, then you get an idea as to who is running the show and the profit.
Not sure if anyone has discussed this before, but the Watchtower could be an ideal setup for laundering money. For example the Watchtower receives a suitcase filled with $100,000 in cash. The Bethel bookkeeper records it as the take from the conventions. Then the bookkeeper is instructed to write a check for $90,000 to a company with ties to organized crime for nonexistant maintenance work. Now everyone is happy. The Watchtower made 10K for making a couple of journal entries and the criminals keep the Feds off their back and report 90K legit income for non-existant work. Not saying that this is happening, but the Watchtower higher ups are only human.
Hopefully a disgruntled Bethel accountant will come forward with the Watchower's financial records, then we won't have to speculate.
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How many have stopped attending at YOUR Kingdumb Hell?
by hamsterbait inon a recent thread about the fleecing of the sheeples, one poster said their congo was down to 85 publishers from 102.. the last hall i attended had 80-odd publishers 20 years ago, now only 30.. how much of a decline at your kh?.
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Athanasius
An Ex-JW friend of mine informed me that the Forrestville KH has been sold. I called their phone number a few minutes ago and it has been disconnected with no further information. Forrestville is in the Wine Country, about 70 miles north of San Francisco. The congregation started back in 1960. I left the JWs in 1984, but as an elder I gave several PTs at the Forrestville KH during the 1970s and 80s and the attendance was around 60.
Sonoma County in Northern California, where I live, is still growing in population, but the number of KHs listed in the phone book are about the same number as when I left.
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Brad Scott, Santa Rosa, CA, JW
by Athanasius inbrad scott, a local jw character, passed away the other day.
he was famous locally for his street witnessing.
since i left the jws in 1984, i'm not aware of his present status as a jw.
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Athanasius
Brad Scott, a local JW character, passed away the other day. He was famous locally for his street witnessing. Since I left the JWs in 1984, I'm not aware of his present status as a JW. According to the article in the local newspaper he seemed too independent to fit in with mainstream JWs. Anyway, here is the link to his obit.
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20140418/articles/140419509