Posts by ezekiel3

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Some people followed Jehovah's Organization, and God killed 'em

by AlmostAtheist in

gina and i were batting around how the organization calls itself "god's channel" out of one side of their mouth and then reminds everyone that they are "imperfect men" out of the other.

this allows them to claim a position of authority as "god's organization" while at the same time allowing them to make mistakes and get away with it.

(1975, "generation", all the flavors of blood, etc).

ezekiel3

Aaron skips out on bail once again...

*** w52 5/1 p. 287 Questions from Readers ***
? Why was Aaron not punished with leprosy as his sister Miriam was when they spoke against Moses??G. M., Pennsylvania.
The record of this event is found in Numbers chapter 12, and a plausible explanation can be given. Aaron at that time was high priest in Israel, and according to the requirements of the high priest as given in Leviticus chapter 21, and particularly verses 20, 21, no Israelite of the household of Aaron, who had a plague in his flesh, scurvy or other blemish, could be high priest. So, if Aaron had been smitten with leprosy he would have been ejected from the priesthood, or at least for seven days that the leprosy would continue as in the case of Miriam. (Num. 12:15) It was evidently his office that saved Aaron from such dire punishment. Also, the record is plain that when Miriam was smitten with leprosy it was a painful experience to Aaron and caused him to cry out on her behalf, which brotherly pain that he felt was no doubt punishment enough for him. We would often prefer to endure pain ourselves than to have those we love dearly undergo it.?Num. 12:10-12.

So if we relate this to the GB...

If you are wishy-washy (see loveis' previous post) and have a high office you are exempt from accountability. Brilliant!

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Bringing Reproach Upon Jehovah

by Sunspot in

as jws we heard this over and over again.

we still see this phrase used time and time again on this board.

what, exactly does this mean to you and how do you think it is applied or should be applied?.

ezekiel3

Does the name "Jehovah" bring reproach to JWs?

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w96 4/15 p. 31 Why He Used the Greatest Name ***

Perowne admitted that the exact pronunciation of the Hebrew Tetragrammaton has been lost, but he remarked: "If owing to merely superstitious scruples the name fell out of use in the Jewish Church, and if owing to a too slavish copying of the Greek and Latin Versions our own [English] Version lost the word, these are reasons of no force whatever against a return to the original use." Perowne favored the form "Jehovah" because it was well known. Since then a number of more modern translations have also used the divine name. The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures uses the name Jehovah more than 7,200 times in the Hebrew and the Christian Greek Scriptures.

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w91 3/1 p. 29 The "New World Translation"?Scholarly and Honest ***

Some criticize the form "Jehovah" by which the New World Translation renders God?s name. In Hebrew manuscripts, the name appears just as four consonants, YHWH, and many insist that the proper pronunciation is "Yahweh," not "Jehovah." Hence, they feel that using "Jehovah" is a mistake. But, in truth, scholars are by no means in agreement that the form "Yahweh" represents the original pronunciation. The fact is that while God preserved the spelling of his name "YHWH" over 6,000 times in the Bible, he did not preserve the pronunciation of it that Moses heard on Mount Sinai. (Exodus 20:2) Therefore, the pronunciation is not of the utmost importance at this time.

The fact is a Hebrew couldn't say "J" if he wanted to. It is not a sound in the Hebrew language. "Jehovah" is the invention of the 15th century Catholic Church - known by JWs as "Babylon the Great."

Yet here, in glaring contradiction to other "truths" that set JWs apart from the rest of the world, they accept a common incorrect pronunciation of the very god they worship. Wow.

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JWD "clusters" - name one ;-)

by Pole in

this is fluff stuff.

you must have noticed posters on many threads tend to come in clusters.

whenever one of the members of the "cluster" starts a thread, another few are very likely to post on his/her thread.

ezekiel3

Damn, you beat me to it IP. (Ah, the thread is self-fulfilling...)

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JWD "clusters" - name one ;-)

by Pole in

this is fluff stuff.

you must have noticed posters on many threads tend to come in clusters.

whenever one of the members of the "cluster" starts a thread, another few are very likely to post on his/her thread.

ezekiel3

The "Scoopers" - the cloaked insiders with breaking news.

Count me in that group, though I'd rather not describe what we are shoveling...

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Neo
TheListener
Doubtfully Yours
IP_SEC
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observador

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Possibly the reason the Awake is going to monthly?

by Mystery in

http://www.willitsnews.com/stories/0,1413,253~26910~2692782,00.html

sharing the 'good news'.

at a state-of-the-art printing plant in new york state, willits residents don and teri buchanan watch jehovah's witnesses turn out 120 deluxe bibles each minute and 90,000 copies of the watchtower each hour in 150 languages for worldwide distribution.

ezekiel3

Hello neighbor!

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/84679/1.ashx

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Pathetic Analogy:JWs=Bush;Apostates=Michael Moore

by Swan in

jw
friends

i thought i would share this pathetic post that car781 posted over on the michael jackson subject on the vh1 message board.

i almost posted it under humour.

all this jehovah's witness bashing.

ezekiel3

making the JW look like mindless robots who do anything their elders tell them to

And your point is?

*** w89 9/15 p. 24 Be Obedient to Those Taking the Lead *** We should be happy to cooperate fully with the arrangements they make for our benefit.
*** w02 3/15 p. 17 Christ Leads His Congregation *** Even if submitting to authority is difficult for us, let us prayerfully apply ourselves to being obedient and submissive to the divinely constituted authority within the congregation.
*** w99 3/1 p. 17 "The Temple" and "the Chieftain" Today *** The flock, in turn, recognizes that Jesus has provided shepherds as "gifts in men." (Ephesians 4:8) Their qualifications are set down in God?s inspired Word. (1 Timothy 3:1-7; Titus 1:5-9) Christians therefore follow the elders? lead.
*** w99 6/1 pp. 16-17 Appreciating the "Gifts in Men" *** We can demonstrate our appreciation for the "gifts in men" by being quick to heed their Bible-based counsel and decisions.

WTS labels the elders as "divinely constituted authority." And, yes "faithful" JWs do mindlessly follow the elders just for that reason.

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"Shaman's Breath" by Professor Trance and the Energisers

by frankiespeakin in

jw
friends

i got this cd at the holotropic breath work seminar.

here is a clip on how to use it:.

http://www.devamusic.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/product_id/218.

ezekiel3

Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!

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Ever Just Have One of Those Days?

by Leolaia in

jw
friends

1. so i wake up this morning and realize that my mom is missing.

i called her last night from 9pm to 11pm and this morning i called at 8am and there was no answer each time i called.

if she had been out earlier last night, it sure seemed as if she never came home.

ezekiel3

Gee, if you were a JW you could at least blame Satan and the demons for persecuting you!

Bless you, you're free

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Propaganda on Tour (from willitsnews.com)

by ezekiel3 in

from the backwaters of northern california's redwoods comes this little gem from willits.

i wonder how many hours the buchanans will count off this blurb:.

source: http://www.willitsnews.com/stories/0,1413,253~26910~2692782,00.html.

ezekiel3

From the backwaters of northern California's redwoods comes this little gem from Willits. I wonder how many hours the Buchanans will count off this blurb:

Source: http://www.willitsnews.com/Stories/0,1413,253~26910~2692782,00.html

April and Teri Buchanan on the base of the Brooklyn Bridge with the Manhattan skyline in the background.

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2/4/2005

- A man of PEACE

- brush be her DESTINY

sharing the 'GOOD NEWS'

At a state-of-the-art printing plant in New York state, Willits residents Don and Teri Buchanan watch Jehovah's Witnesses turn out 120 deluxe Bibles each minute and 90,000 copies of The Watchtower each hour in 150 languages for worldwide distribution

By Fae Woodward/Staff Writer

Don and Teri Buchanan, and daughter April, returned from a fall trip to the East Coast overwhelmed by the technology and organization they observed at the Jehovah's Witnesses' printing plant in Wallkill, and audio/visual studios in Patterson, New York.

The printing presses at Wallkill are capable of producing hardcover books and deluxe Bibles at a rate of 120 a minute, or magazines at a rate of 90,000 an hour. The primary journal of Jehovah's Witnesses, The Watchtower, has an international circulation of 25,203,000 in 150 languages and is by far the world's most widely translated magazine. Translating the text into 150 languages is done simultaneously by a MEPS computer program designed by the church.

At the facilities in Patterson, the audio-visual studios produce Bible education aud-io and VHS tapes, as well as CDs, DVDs and now MP3s to stay current with the latest technology. Braille literature, as well as video and DVD for the hearing-impaired, also are produced there.

The time of the year chosen for their travels took the Buchanans to New England during the fall colors. They took photographs everywhere they traveled, including in the hospital clean pressroom at Wallkill, where computer-operated machines collected and packaged waste for recycling even as it was created.

They learned the new presses they saw replaced those sold by Jehovah's Witnesses to Rand and McNally publishers. Because the speed of the new presses proved damaging to the type of paper originally used, the manufacturer who supplied them had to redesign its paper-making process.

The latest in presses, located in Wallkill, New York, can print 90,000 signatures an hour.

The family flew into Syracuse, New York, and traveled by rented car from the Adirondacks to Washington, D.C. A visit to Pennsylvania and Gettysburg was included.

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"Train up a boy according to the way for him... (proof against the Dubs)!

by upside/down in

proverbs 22: 6 says, "train up a boy according to the way for him; even when he grows old he will not turn aside from it.

i heard this scripture cited at a district convention and used to show that if the family heads were indeed training their children properly than this scripture would be proved out- because "god" cannot lie.

also, it was pointed out that this scripture doesn't say "he might not" or "probably won't" turn aside- it says he won't turn aside .

ezekiel3

U/D:

Actually a good point. (Remember the kettle, a watched thread never posts )

So if there is a 70% attrition rate from JW kids and 90% of recruits (baptisms) in US/Europe are JW kids...