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ezekiel3
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Idea on How Defectors Inside theOrganization Can Find Each Other (espionage
by frankiespeakin inlets work up some good ideas that we can pass on to bethel workers, cos, dos, elders etc... can use to help them to start to find others in the org that know it's not the truth but are stuck inside for various reasons.
lets come up with some way of testing people to so as not to blow ones cover and remain hidden.
plans of espionage that could cause a major blow to the organization from those trapped inside, things like how co can give talks to really discourge the friends and cause them to doubt the organization, all the while it looks like he's are doing what the organization wants him to do.
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NEW RELEASE FROM THE ASSEMBLY
by Mary ini'm not sure if anyone has posted this, but one of the new releases from the assembly is called "what does the bible really teach?
the contents are too boring to completely reiterate, but here's a sample:
what is god's purpose for the earth?
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ezekiel3
Pablum - without the flavor, to see more click below
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My last District Convention (I hope) ... observations
by ithinkisee inso last weekend was my last district convention.
i plan on breaking the news to my wife real soon.
nowadays even at the meetings my blood pressure raises and my back gets all tense as i sit and listen to some of the stuff we are supposed to believe.
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ezekiel3
Do I get a badge or something?
Here you go..
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Flood help in reasoning book.
by bother_forever inwhen going door to door at a young age, the topic concerning the flood would from time to time arise, when i first encountered this topic with a "knowledgeable" householder i knew i needed fire power and fast.
it was when opening the "reasoning on the scriptures" book that i knew i would find something to not only amaze the householder with a fact that could not be argued with, but i would re affirm my faith and be happy, etc etc.
there was nothing, no flood heading, after pointing this out to a few bro&sis that our main weapon in the field seemed to lack some fire power in this subject i was told that it was not a neccessary subject for the society to have it in such a book.
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ezekiel3
Genesis 7:19, 20: And the waters overwhelmed the earth so greatly that all the tall mountains that were under the whole heavens came to be covered. Up to fifteen cubits the waters overwhelmed them and the mountains became covered.
That's all the proof a JW needs.
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Nazi Leadership and the Governing Body - A Correlation
by ezekiel3 inin 1969 the book inside the third reich - memoirs by albert speer revealed the character and personalities of many of the nazi leaders.
albert speer was originally hilter's pet architect and then promoted to run armament production.
during this time he had much close contact with hitler, goering and goebbels.
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ezekiel3
In 1969 the book Inside the Third Reich - Memoirs by Albert Speer revealed the character and personalities of many of the Nazi leaders. Albert Speer was originally Hilter's pet architect and then promoted to run armament production. During this time he had much close contact with Hitler, Goering and Goebbels. He was sentenced to 20 years for his participation in war-crimes.Here is a striking quote from this book (at the end of chapter 20) that attempts to explain how leaders in high-control environments (such as the Governing Body) can operate and even believe in their own fiction:
I have always thought it was a most valuable trait to recognize reality and not to pursue delusions. But when I now think over my life up to and including the years of imprisonment, there was no period in which I was free of delusory notions.
The departure from reality, which was visibly spreading like a contagion, was no peculiarity of the National Socialist regime. But in normal circumstances people who turn their backs on reality are soon set straight by the mockery and criticism of those around them, which makes them aware they have lost credibility. In the Third Reich there were no such correctives, especially for those who belonged to the upper stratum. On the contrary, every self-deception was multiplied as in a hall of distorting mirrors, becoming a repeatedly confirmed picture of a fantastical dream world which no longer bore any relationship to the grim outside world. In those mirrors I could see nothing but my own face reproduced many times over. No external factors disturbed the uniformity of hundreds of unchanging faces, all mine.
There were differences of degree in the flight from reality. Thus Goebbels was surely many times closer to recognizing actualities than, say, Goering or Ley. But these differences shrink to nothing when we consider how remote all of us, the illusionists as well as the so-called realists, were from what was really going on.
It is a fascinating thought that, until the this age of internet awareness, there was no widespread forum of "mockery and criticism" to expose the actions of the GB. But still, I am prone to believe that inside the "Bethel Bubble" this flight from reality will continue for some time. -
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New System Sewage
by joelbear in.
i was thinking this weekend.. how will sewage treatment be handled in the new system?
i assume mature brothers will be assigned the privilege of working at sewer treatment plants for shifts of 1000 years or so.
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ezekiel3
Umm..we'll all go outside our 1.5 acre parcel with a stick and scratch a hole in the ground just like the Isrealites in the wilderness.
Duh!
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Idea on How Defectors Inside theOrganization Can Find Each Other (espionage
by frankiespeakin inlets work up some good ideas that we can pass on to bethel workers, cos, dos, elders etc... can use to help them to start to find others in the org that know it's not the truth but are stuck inside for various reasons.
lets come up with some way of testing people to so as not to blow ones cover and remain hidden.
plans of espionage that could cause a major blow to the organization from those trapped inside, things like how co can give talks to really discourge the friends and cause them to doubt the organization, all the while it looks like he's are doing what the organization wants him to do.
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ezekiel3
Dude you're from Texas?I like what you say about "Simon". What about working "Simon says" (the game) into conversation?
Or "Have you read Ezekiel chapter 3, it's very interesting"
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PREPARE Ye the way to ditch 1914
by hamsterbait inthe wts started getting everyone ready to ditch generation teaching by .
1: putting in the greatest man book where christ talksof the sign (you know there was a picture of a space sattellite) - so armageddon will come in the lifetime of those who see the fulfilment of all he predicted.
damn!
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ezekiel3
Hamster, I would have agreed with you...until i saw the new release at the District Convention this year.
Why would they be printing the same ol' if they were fading away from it? Your prediction may eventually come true, but not anytime soon.
What Does The Bible Really Teach? Page 215-218
The 2,520 years began in October 607 B.C.E., when Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians and the Davidic king was taken off his throne. The period ended in October 1914. At that time, "the appointed times of the nations" ended, and Jesus Christ was installed as God's heavenly King.*-Psalm 2:1-6; Daniel 7:13, 14. (* From October 607 B.C.E. to October 1 B.C.E. is 606 years. Since there is no zero year, from October 1 B.C.E. to October 1914 C.E. is 1,914 years. By adding 606 years and 1,914 years, we get 2,520 years. For information on Jerusalem's fall in 607 B.C.E., see the article "Chronology" in Insight on the Scriptures, published by Jehovah's Witnesses.)
Just as Jesus predicted, his "presence" as heavenly King has been marked by dramatic world developments--war, famine, earthquakes, pestilences. (Matthew 24:3-8; Luke 21:11) Such developments bear powerful testimony to the fact that 1914 indeed marked the birth of God's heavenly Kingdom and the beginning of "the last days" of this present wicked system of things.-2 Timothy 3:1-5.More info on the new book here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/92777/1.ashx
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Kwintestal in the news (video online)
by Jourles in.
kwin can be seen here.. the file size is 407kb.
actual footage time is around a minute.
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ezekiel3
We are proud of you, it takes real guts to face your abuser and your accuser at the same time. Good luck!
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Beating the Watchtower
by joelbear inin my opinion, the best way by far to beat the watchtower is to:.
live your life to the fullest.
follow your bliss.
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ezekiel3
Oh Joel and Frankie, the love!
IMO the XJW must first find peace within before going on any awareness campaign.
But sitting idly by while thousands of brainwashed children get baptized into a cult is inexcusable.
For that matter, I consider everyone who posts here to be an activist. All comments are needed, even the one that started this thread. Otherwise someone would think that we are all just religio-terrorists.
So while some of us are venting through our emotions, others move on to argue newly discovered ideals, some organize the information war, still others provide a shoulder and support -- an entire body of shared experience.
And while we debate the methods of healing on this discussion board, think of the brave souls who escaped the cult and survived an emotional wilderness before this internet brought us together. It's much easier to heal now.