I didn't look at the website, but since it has to do with children - I would say more power to them. Do you assert that Pedophiles SHOULD have privacy to prey on children?
I just wish someone would go that far to stop the JW pedophiles!
Bubbamar
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Is this a good thing?
by Country Girl inthis is a site on the internet in which the board members pose as young children, go into chat rooms, and try to lure possible pedophiles into conversation.
when a person is engaged in dialogue, the poser obtains the phone number, and tries to arrange a possible meet up.
the person is encouraged to send their photograph.
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how does everyone else cope with being shunned by family?
by nb-dfed ini am a newbie to the site.
i was born an raised a jw.
shortly after marriage, my husband and i decided we no longer wanted to be part of the organization.
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Bubbamar
Welcom nb
I too am df'ed and my mom is still very in and very loyal to JW doctrine. I have not had any contact with her for 6-7 years now. Before that it was occasional contact - she used to drop me preachy, bible/WT thumping letters from time to time. Then my dad and both grandmothers died within 2 weeks of each other and my mom left for Equador to do missionary work and she didn't call or write for 2 years. That would have been only a little more acceptable had I not been in the midst of so much loss already - but for her to shun me 100% after going through that - THAT was when I realized her treatment of me was completely unacceptable to me and I will not tolerate another second of it. She wrote me 2 years later and apologized for not contacting me for the 2 years (and of course justified her actions with scripture) but it was too late.
The grief seems to come in waves. It was extremely painful for a long time and I drank a lot of alcohol and consumed a lot of drugs in order to cope with it. I definitely do not recommend this path! Then I got into therapy and began to recover. That's when things began to improve for me.
What re-opened this wound was reading Crisis of Conscience and realizing that my mom has allowed her family to be destroyed by this cult without even bothering to check some basic historical facts. That really pisses me off!!
That's my story. Like others have said I also have a "family of choice" now - I have love and true spirituality in my life. Ironically, I pray for my mom.
My best to you. Hang in there!!
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WTBS attitude towards vegetarians ...
by El blanko in.
having flirted with meat off and on through my life, but mostly conforming to the vegetarian standard (due to the obscenity for the most part that is the meat industry) - i noticed when serving with the society, that i came under fire from the brothers.. my moral arguments about cutting down on meat consumption based around the factory farming methods were cast aside and often sneered at.. "well god gave us the right to eat meat" was the usual line i had to swallow down.. have any of you guys faced the same situation?
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I don't know why they aren't required to be vegetarians since they obviously will be in the NS(tm). All of their depictions of the NS indicate that they will be (as well as all animals - including the lion laying next to the little girl with the bowl of fruit) but it is interesting that I never heard a JW comment on that. Do they know that what they suggest is preposterous in that it would totally destroy the whole food chain concept??
As far as the health issue: Before I got baptised (age 13) and was going through the questions, they told me that if I had any questions - that was the time to ask them. My question was, since a person can be DF'ed for smoking because its bad for your body why can't people also be DF'ed for being fat (bad for your body) or using saccharin (it had a warning label at the time saying that it caused cancer.) THey laughed at me and had no good answer for my questions. I guess I only got to ASK the questions. I should have backed out till they could give me a real answer.
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Org quoting itself to prove arguments (circular reference?)
by indoubt indiscussing recent earthquakes, the italian journal ?ii piccolo?
in fact, during a period of 1,059 years (from 856 to 1914) reliable sources list only 24 major earthquakes causing 1,973,000 deaths.
in the italian journal il piccolo, of october 8, 1978, geo malagoli observed:.
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Bubbamar
Hmmmm - Looks like some of the research quoting I did in college. hahaha
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Just As A Matter Of Curiosity..........
by hillary_step injust as a matter of curiosity i was wondering if any of you know of anybody who has read raymond franz' 'crisis of conscience' and who actually remained a jw?
i have sent and lent this book to a number of people within the wts, even a co, all of whom left eventually.
one person remained due to domestic issues, but resigned from all his duties and remains as such.
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It is only the point of view of one man and that's all.
What happened in Malawi/Mexico is not a "point of view." It really happened to real people. And anyone who can read about that incident and have no passionate feelings of revulsion for the WTBTS is - as someone else on this board says so well - a braindead dubby. Just my opinion.
The 607 issue is also not a "point of view." Its called history.
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Does Anyone Else Ever Encounter This???
by ohiocowboy ini have been in a relationship for about 2-1/2 years now, and it seems that every time we have an argument or disagreement, it usually turns out to be my fault according to the other person, and my upbringing as a jw is always brought into the light, and also my depressive moods, this person knowing background of my exit from the org.
and the feelings it has caused me.
it feels as though they are using this as a "scapegoat", because even if that person comes home in a bad mood, or has to do something that they don't like, and an argument insues, i automatically am made the "bad guy", even though i was previously in a good mood before things started, and am reminded by this person how i must not be taking my antidepressants, or am thinking too much about my past, etc.
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Yes Ohio - I have really bad PMS too!! (haha) In my relationship I am also the only who is ever grumpy, depressed, or whatever. My partner is patient though and doesn't throw it in my face. It is hard when I feel like I have a bizarro history compared to other "normal" people. That's also my strength though. I have survived and do my best to take care of myself so I'm not hard to put up with. I have a good friend who says, "we teach people how to treat us." Just something to think about.
((hugs to you))
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APOSTAPETS!!!
by ohiocowboy ini thought it would be neat if we could see what each others canine, feline, avian, etc.companions look like.... .
here's my love, her name is chelsea, she is 9-1/2 years, and i have had her since she was 8 weeks old.
she is a golden lab mix, thus i affectionately call her "mutt butt" .
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I don' t have a pic of mine either but I'm also a PUG owner. I love my pug - he's 13 and I've had him since he was 5 weeks old. He's the best!! (he's black like my avatar).
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Ex Music
by Stefanie inbecause i love music so much, i wanted to start another thread on it.. what songs remind you of your ex?
the ones you have to turn off before you... a) cry your eyes out... b) get so angry you would like to curse out loud, or... d) you dont care, you like to be reminded of your past flings.. for me it would have to be anything from seal, or hootie and the blowfish, and anything jazz.
i dont a,b, or c, but i do get annoyed and dont like to be reminded so i switch the station.. anyone else?
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Bubbamar
"I think you're already leavin' - - feels like your hand is on the door.......If you're gone--- Maybe its time to come home....there's an awful lot of breathing room - but I can hardly move"
I can't remember the artist. I had an ex play it on my voicemail and I went back for a while. Turns out it was very insincere and I should have never looked back. Now when I hear it I get angry and turn it off.
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Just As A Matter Of Curiosity..........
by hillary_step injust as a matter of curiosity i was wondering if any of you know of anybody who has read raymond franz' 'crisis of conscience' and who actually remained a jw?
i have sent and lent this book to a number of people within the wts, even a co, all of whom left eventually.
one person remained due to domestic issues, but resigned from all his duties and remains as such.
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That's such a good question!! I have often wondered about sending a copy to my mom. I haven't though because I believe it wouldn't make any difference to her. I think she could read it and stay in. Either that or she would lose her mind as reality came crumbling in on her.
The nature of a delusion is that it is a firmly held belief despite evidence to the contrary. Therefore, JW's, IMO could read it and stay.....because they are delusional.
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There are two reasons why I'd go back to the JWs...
by logansrun ini was thinking about this the other day in response to the question, "am i coming back?
" put forward by jw who called me (a former friend).
i said that i would not answer that question since it would put her in an uncomfortable position.
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But would anyone consider going back.........maybe to fade away again.......just to speak to their family again ? They play games with us ....so why not play games with them ?
I have actually toyed with this idea too. But when I think it through to its logical conclusion it ends up being a non-possibility. I would have to spend hours and hours of my valuable time sitting in meetings to get reinstated. And for what?? To have the honor and privalege of associating with my mother who has rejected me and shunned me for the past 18 years. Why on earth would I would I go to any trouble at all to gain the acceptance and association of people who I have nothing in common with, who have absurd beliefs, who have abused me and hurt me, etc, etc, etc. Really it is in essence: Reason # 2 ***INSANITY*** For me, there is really NO reason to EVER go back and EVERY reason to NOT go back.