>Not to belittle anyone or hurt them, I will say that when I read about the psychic or religious experiences >of others, my first mental response is to not believe it or question the validity of what is said.
>I seldom reveal this to them, since I don't want to demean others or their beliefs. As long as they do not >try to force them on me.
>I wonder how many of us are caught in the same situation I am in?
I feel the same way, I wouldn't say I went on a massive search mission to discover God, Jesus, or anything spiritual, but the lack of concrete proof for most beliefs has a very negative impact on my opinion of them.
More recently I've tried keeping a very open mind when confronted with new beliefs, I think everyone is entitled to their own belief system, and as long as they're happy with it thats excellent.
I don't seem to have a belief system, which I do criticise myself for though..
I guess because I've never felt 'in touch' with a greater being, or sensed that there was a god out there that really cared what we as insignificant particles in the the universe (in our current form) did or thought, I'm also really sceptic about other peoples accounts of psychic experiences and spiritual enlightment.
I just can't relate to their experiences
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In the aftermath of our shattered faith, for those who also wonder.....
by Frannie Banannie init's been over 12 yrs since my df'ing.
yes, i forced 'em to do it for what i know now were pointless reasons....but mainly, at the time, i thought it was because the heirarchy of the wts doesn't measure up to scriptural standards....i wasn't wrong for they are very judgmental hate-mongers, manipulative and overbearing....but i've come to learn so much more..... .
after years of traumatic disillusionment, i've begun to wonder if there really is a god/goddess, etc....or is this a state of mind/belief system that mankind has created to explain the inexplicable, answer the unanswerable, to put a spiritual bandaid on the tortured in mind, body and/or spirit.....and yet, tho our bodies wear out eventually, we are wonderfully "made"....and so many things here on earth are sympatico with our human existence and temperament.....yet....at the same time, we have adverse reactions to many things, too, whether vegetable, animal, mineral or even spiritual.....is this all only a contrivance of our imaginings, the result of our teachings among ourselves?.
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In All Honesty, Are You A Happier Person Now Than when You Were A JW?
by minimus injws say, "the apostates are miserable!!
".....do you feel miserable?
(i don't).
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I'm happy in that I can pretty much do what I want without thinking what the
consequences would be if 'the elders found out'
that I've got a lot more time I'm on my hands, not having to spend time making
up excuses for not going out in field service and not going to meetings and
not preparing properly
happy to be free of a mind controlling cult, jc who wouldn't be!!!
unfortunately there is plenty of unhappiness that has come from coming out
as well, family relationships are now none existent, all the questions about
creation, etc have suddenly become unanswered, trying to figure out how the
world really works, how to interact with people, how to react to situations
i've never come across before etc.
On the balance of things though, I am a lot happier now than I was the last
couple of years I was in, and the time period immediately after coming out.
What does trigger feeling miserable is seeing what the society is doing, and
the large number of people that are still deluded and new one becoming deluded
and getting sucked into something thats going to have a real negative impact
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"This Land" featuring John Kerry & George Bush
by Sirius Dogma in.
liberal weiners & right wing nutjobs unite in laughing.
http://www.jibjab.com/thisland.html
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ROFLMFAO!!!
you can't say nuclear
that really scares me
sometimes a brain can come in handy....
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Uncle Fifi and the poo-poo kids
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JW, WatchTower Society, Alcoholism, and Recovery
by BrendaCloutier ini left the borg in about 1979 of my own accord after having my eyes opened (and experiencing) the hypocrisies around me.. in 1982 i sucessfully left my jw husband, who devloped alcoholism, and became a wife-beater when he could no longer control me.
the elders in the congregation (i married into) told me i was to subject myself to my husband, and his justice.. beginning in 1987, i realized my own drinking problem was alcoholism, and i successfully got clean and sober in 1990.. attending that first meeting, on a summer sunday evening in 1987 was shear hell for me.
it was in the basement of a baptist church!
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Welcome to the board!
We had a sister in the cong. that conducted wine tastings, so she would regularly hold them at her home and the few times that I went it was always the same people that were there, and all these people were doing a lot more than just tasting the wine. Any gathering we went to had plenty of alcoholic drinks available. I remember when I was ten I was at a wedding reception, I stumbled upon the 'in' group of kids downing quarts of beer, and I got into shit when I went and told someone about this..
While I don't drink regularly I unfortunately do cut loose when I do, resulting in a 2-3 day haze that I don't remember much of, takes a while to recover from that but it only happens once or twice a month.
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I QUIT!
by Yerusalyim ini quit....smoking that is, my pack to 1 1/2 pack a day habit...i quit june 4th, not a single cigarette since then...though 5 to 7 pounds...are ya proud of me...huh huh huh....i had a few of ya hoping i was leaving the board....ha!
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>Now just substitute 100 Hindu Squats and 20 Hindu pushups* everytime you think longingly about a smoke, and >the weight problem will disappear too!
>*see Matt Furey's "Combat Conditioning"
damn, just looked those up and tried some, bloody painfull but really nice exercises, I recommend those!!!
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Charles T Russell -a freemason and the connection to the illuminati...
by dolphman inok, i'm not one for conspiracy theories but lately i've uncovered some interesting facts that i think warrant some attention.. first of all, russell was a freemason.
all the early watchtower and books he authored have freemason symbology and art throughout them.
not a big deal i thought, until i read more about freemasons and the so-called "illuminati", a group of 13 families that supposedly control the world.. supposedly these 13 families, such as the duponts, mcdonalds, kennedys, .
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I've read similar stuff, a bit more drastic in that it involved lizards and people from mars, but it gets the same point as what you researched.
on the point of the unifed government, last week I saw an add in the paper (South African Mail & Guardian) sponsored by some doctor (I can't remember his name) calling on all countries in the world to unite and join the new Alliance of Nations to take over from the UN. He said that the UN no longer has any authority as they broke the charter by which they exist when they recently authorized the american troops in iraq, this suggesting that any country can invade a smaller country for resources and say later that they needed to do it to survive and get it authorized or something like that..
The more you read about this stuff and watch worldly events the scarier it gets because almost everything fits into the picture..
What I read also tied the ancient Inca (I think) sundial time thingy that predicted the end of the world in 2012, and how the illuminati were aiming to have a unified world government in place setup by then. For what reason I don't know, some theories suggest alien contact will be made then, or the world will have to fight unitedly insome greater war or something..
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Eeeeeeeeee By Gum
by Celtic ineeeeee by gum!!
gordon bennet!!.
my first two exclamations of surprise.. what are your two expressions with no repeats overlapping?.
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sheisskopf
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JW kids...
by neverthere infor those of you that grew up in the "truth" what did you get to play with/watch on tv?
i keep reading about what you couldn't have or watch so what did you do?
enquiring non jw minds want to know!.
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I couldn't watch 'violent' cartoons on tv, so there wnet x-men, he-man, thundercats etc. Eventually we got rid of the tv because it wasn't wholesome entertainment..
I would sit around at school twiddling my thumbs when everyone talked about what they saw on tv the day before.
In creche I used to make up stuff, whenever someone described a scene from a cartoon I would say yeah that was my favourite part, oh that was so cool..
when I went to my dad's place I ended up not watching the stuff by choice because it was wrong
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If The Population Increases Does It Mean There Would Be Less Demon Control?
by minimus insince the demons can't multiply and produce baby demons, my theory is that if the earth's population increases, then there is less likelyhood that the demons and a singular devil will get to us.....whaddya think?
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why can't one demon affected more than one person? dunno, maybe a demonic program on tv or demonised music would reach lots of people, whether they choose to be infected is their own problem..