Axelspeed

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  If Jehovah does not demand human sacrifice.......?

  by Gill in

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  if jehovah does not demand human sacrifice, then why does he demand that jws die instead of taking blood transfusions?

  isn't that human sacrifice?

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  Axelspeed

  So cuetec06, if a person has an organ transplant, would that be introducing something foreign into the body?
  
  Axel
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  worst Bookstudy book

  by darth frosty in

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  what is the book you liked the least studying at the bookstudy?

  for me it was the isaiah books.

  side question which book did you like the best?

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  Best:Greatest Man (relatively speaking): I really started to see the disconnect between the gospel and what was being practiced by the WT. I could see a closer resemblance to the pharisees that anything close to what Jesus taught.

  Worst:Isaiah Books: the most boring drivel I have ever studied from the WT. I didn't stick around for part 2. Everything was about 1919 and everything bad = apostate Christendom, everything good = WT. Not even good pictures to keep you interested. The Revelation book runs a close second, but at least it had pictures.

  Axel
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  BURN DOWN THE KINGDOM HALLS!!

  by nicolaou in

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  firstly, do not burn down the kingdom halls!

  i'm sure you can tell the difference between an attention grabbing topic title and a genuine call to arson.

  i am not advocating illegal behaviour and neither would anyone associated with this site.. my question is; just how far would you go?

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  Now that we're out and we don't acknowledge their self appointed authority, it is easy to put such bullies in their place. ; They're not used to someone standing up to them and they really don't know what to do when someone verbally smashes their brains in.

  Very true. On a personal level, I don't have desire to go the physical route. Its just not worth it, and feeds right into what most JWs want and need and thrive on to make them feel they are fulfilling some prophecy "so the end must be close"-- persecution.

  We are already winning this war. The WT is hanging itself with its own words. The information now available, especially on the internet, combined with the growing apathy and depression in the JW ranks, is having impact already. "Burning something down" would change everything. The apathy would evaporate. Some might leave, but most would catch fire again, and the ones on the fence would run to mother fearing the big A was on the way.

  I believe the best strategy is to live well and be available when a person is ready. Sometimes it may appear otherwise, but remember these are not happy people. They may fake it in front of you, and even fool themselves into thinking they are peddling their way to happiness. But it is all pretense. They may not even realize why they are unhappy, but they will only see it when they are ready and courageous enough to take a honest reassessment of everything that touches their lives, including the JW religion. Once a persons knows the truth about the Truth, and they still choose not to see it, its their choice. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink.

  I believe the worst I could wish on the JWs who are jerks or corrupt and cruel elders is for them to hang on to whatever strands of JWism they can. And as as the credibility of the WT erodes to next to nil, they are forced to look back on their own lives at the very end realizing they wasted it on a falsehood. If a person doesnt want to see they light, I say let them be until they are choking on watchtowers (figuratively of course). Destroying the credibility of the WT is the key. The individuals are just victims (as we once were) and only acting on what they have been misled and manipulated to believe. But for those who already know its false and still perpetuate it....I say stay...cause I want to be there to watch them choke on the words as the credibility of their real god the WT crumbles.

  I know a JW on the Liaison Committee who I've known since I was a kid. I know him too be extremely intelligent and I had always valued his opinion. We one day had an in depth discussion on the blood issue. I ask him questions he was not able to answer rationally and still appear credible. He knew that I knew that he was much too intelligent to really believe the bs that was coming out of his mouth. He didnt really believe it and it showed in his eyes, but what was he going to say. I still like the guy, but I lost a lot of respect for him that day. When we see each other, we are still cordial and speak, but the aura he held for me is gone. He probably will never leave...too much invested.

  I tell this story to say that there are plenty of these types in JWland. I am not after really after them (they are the ones who will live with it), only the belief system that controls and imprisons so many into this fetal position of a state. When the WT has no further credibility, and a person chooses to stay...I say have at it.

  Axel
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  News About 2006 Memorial

  by Severus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a call to action.

  please read.

  jehovah's witnesses will be celebrating the memorial of jesus death on wednesday, april 12th.

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  Havn't really followed this thread, even though I knew it had something to do with the "funny money." I didn't realize it had grown to this level of interest.
  
  My opinion is that if this is about really helping JWs see the light, it will have minimal effect. JWs are trained for this kind of thing, they are on the look out for it,...in fact even imagine it exist in the most hidden of places. JWs have a serious persecution complex. Most will see it as a silly prank pushed by evil apostates.
  
  For Jws everything is about satan, the world and apostates focusing on them, and them alone, and trying to trip them up. Remember they are the center of there universe.
  
  To have success in seeing the light, they first have to be ready for it and ready to think for themselves.
  
  Just my 2c.
  Axel
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  Has anybody read this book?

  by Axelspeed in

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  the early history of god: yahweh and the other deities in ancient israel -- by mark smith.

  has anybody read this book?

  or know of some other good books along this line?

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  Thanks J. It does appear to assume a level of working knowledge from the pages I've seen. It looks interesting enough to give it a read nonetheless.

  Axel
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  DOES THAT HAILSTONE HAVE MY NAME ON IT?

  by Dogpatch in

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  hey y'all, this is a really good and funny life story.

  you've got to read it!

  -- randy

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  Axelspeed

  That was one great read!...I felt every word of it.

  Axel
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  Has anybody read this book?

  by Axelspeed in

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  the early history of god: yahweh and the other deities in ancient israel -- by mark smith.

  has anybody read this book?

  or know of some other good books along this line?

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  Axelspeed

  The Early History of God: Yahweh and the Other Deities in Ancient Israel -- by Mark Smith

  Has anybody read this book? Or know of some other good books along this line? Thanks.

  Axel
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  I said too much

  by vitty in

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  2. experiences

  i was having a good conversation with my mum, and then............... id said too much.. she had been telling me she didnt ant to go to the hall, for a number of reasons, and when i started critisizing the borg she went all haughty and started telling me i should be going!!!!!!!!!.

  the usual, its so near the end, its the only truth............blah blah.

  its 3.30am here and i cant sleep, i just want everyone to know i dont go anymore but i cant.

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  You either come clean and risk shunning or play being weak and everyone feels the need to be stronger in the "truth" to prove to you how wonderful it all is.

  Hang in there. I know the feeling, esp. when they paste on the fake smiles to prove how happy happy they are in the "truth". My family are all in too, so I know the feeling of seeing them gird themselves up when I come around to show me just how happy I could be too. At some point, and only you know when that time is, the fear will be gone and you'll know what to do and you will do it.

  Axel
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  Getting Busted w/ Love Letters

  by OpenFireGlass in

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  love letters were the demise for many of the kids in congregations that i attended growing up..... i know i ended up in the library/back room several times for this (hopless romantic/ sagitarius) even put on public reproof for it.

  (though i believe it was my dad's idea to have the elders put me on public reproof so that he could have more control over me).

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  Axelspeed

  I'm glad somebody's laughing...lol.

  my father was listening on the other line and I was forced to call back and read her some chapters from the Youth! book, offer biblical counsel and a free home bible study.

  just noticed this...I feel for you. That sounds like pure hell! lmao. Axel
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  Bible stories swept under the carpet

  by jgnat in

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  i'll start.. judges 4:21 jeal drove a tent peg through the head of a sleeping king.. judges 19:29 a man cut up the body of his raped and murdered concubine and sent the twelve parts to the twelve tribes of israel.. .

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  Axelspeed

  Jehovah doesn't want you killing ANY of his babies early! He wants them saved so he gets to have all the fun for himself!!!

  What a Twisted Little Sister...LOL

  Axel