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  2013 Drama: "Show Yourself Attentive"

  by breakfast of champions in

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  2. beliefs

  this is the first of three "dramas" this dc, and i have to say, it was one of the weirdest dramas ever.

  i won't go through all the details.

  maybe someone else wants to throw in their 2c.. it starts out with two men standing on the "beach" talking, but it took me awhile to figure out what in the hell was going on.

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  wow. dramas have really gone downhill. The super slow speed is so ridiculous. I always hated their exagerrated "Je HOH vah"

  But I remember the very first year they did one, and the next few. They were actually quite interesting - maybe because it was something new.They had that one old guy with the strong Hebrew accent who did all the patriarch voices. Sounds like this modern "Job" is trying to imitate that. The acting always sucked, but it seemed like they at least had some compelling story lines. In my last few years they had already started downhill, but this is unbelievably bad. JarJar Binks, indeed.

  It's also intersting, Gayle, what you said about drama voices turning apostate. I remember the girl of whom you speak - every year there was a role for her (along with the old Hebrew guy). One year it was the Little Isrealite girl.
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  Looooooooooong Prayers...

  by likeabird in

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  let's have a bit of a laugh.. .

  who of you rolled your eyes when brother never ending prayers was called up to give the closing prayer?.

  who of you then proceeded to tap your feet, fidget loudly or start doing balancing acts off the back of the chair in front of you while waiting for it to end?.

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  yeah...I recall Freddie Franz...his talk went double time (2 hours instead of one) and then the prayer...wow...I thought it would never end. I was walking the corridors with a crying baby....but even so, it was ridiculous.
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  Dat da da da: Justitia Themis Law School Graduate

  by crmsicl in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  congratulations to justitia themis on all her hard work at putting herself through law school.

  after being raised in the watchtower organization and having survived all of what that entails she has picked up the pieces, analyzed her strengths and has made choices to better herself and the community.. .

  i am so proud of her.

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  Wonderful news! Well done.
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  600 people up and left the DC after the 'apostate' talk?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  2. friends

  an 'apostate' inactive jw in america i know on facebook went to the dc and said fully 600 people left between the end of the apostate talk and the lunch break.

  have any of you who also went to the dc seen something like this happen?

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  Almost sounds like the start of a new urban myth. They can spin it as "the talk is weeding out secret apostates amid us".
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  From Pioneer to Professor: My Story

  by laverite in

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  2. friends

  i wanted to say hello.

  i knew i was gay.

  i wanted to study and learn about everything i could.

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  Great story, Laverite. In a way I'm envious of those who woke up early and went to university to earn a Phd. It's something I doubt I'll ever acheive. I was born in and went pioneering instead. Didn't leave till my 40s, and that's when I went to university. I only earned my masters a few years ago. Financial reality (and a huge student loan) means I'm caught in the endless treadmill of working multiple jobs just to survive, and don't have time to even complete the requirements to register as a psychologist, let alone try a Phd. It's still part of my goals, but I'm starting to take a realistic view.

  Regarding being ashamed of a JW past - I'm not sure it's necessary to feel that way. I mean, there are many famous people who were raised as JWs, and when I hear their story I don't think any less of them. In fact I admire them for successfully leaving. When people learn about mine, it's more curiosity because most people know nothing about the cult. When they do learn more, the curiosity generally becomes admiration for having the courage to get out.

  It's especially valuable in a psychology field, I think. I went through many psychologists when I was still a JW, and any benefit I was getting from therapy stopped the moment I had to start defending my religion in the face of their shock at my crazy JW beliefs. A psychologist who understood the cult would not have put me in that position. I would love to read your books, Laverite, once you are ready to put your name out there.
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  The Elders want to meet with me ... (Judicial Meeting)

  by Oubliette in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the elders want to meet with me.

  at least that's what they keep telling me, and they've been saying it for more than a month and a half now.

  just so you're clear: this is a judicial committee.

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  Oubliette i- they did the same to me when I asked for reinstatement. They kept me hanging for over 5 months while they played their games. First it was some elder was on vacation. Then they wanted to wait for the COs visit. Then they were too busy. Etc. Etc. They didn't give a s**t that my family was hurting, I was hurting, that I had been faithfully attending every meeting and doing every blasted thing they demanded of me. Their game. Their rules.

  Hope it ends for you soon, tho. And good luck on your subsequent fade.
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  WT letter advises JWs not to edit Wikipedia articles on JW subjects

  by cabasilas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  apparently, the watchtower society has recently issued formal advice that individual witnesses should not edit jw articles on wikipedia.

  i occasionally edit some of the jw articles on wikipedia.

  a couple of days ago i noticed a comment from one of the most respected jw editors to another jw editor on his personal talk page mentioning a letter from the wt society about editing on wikipedia.

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  Interesting thread 6 years later. I see Wikipedia is still being edited - JWfacts was right. The R and F may not be allowed to do it, but the approved Bethelites are. I got a smile from the cognitive dissonance comments. I`m guessing that the Society`s letter must have said something about the GB having "qualified editors" that would take care of any revisions needed on Wiki. The same anonymous, faceless ones who provide the literature.

  Many years ago my aunt, a faithful pioneer, wrote a letter to our local newspaper in response to something which opened up a spirited debate on the trinity. She was having great fun engaging people and the Letters to the Editor page took on quite a theological tone for a while. Then the elders descended and forbade her to write any more letters.

  So this kind of stuff has been going on for a long time. The only place JWs are allowed to "debate" their faith is when they are trying to indoctrinate others, and if they are challenged they are trained to just walk away. As has been pointed out, most don't even think about what they actually believe. They just point you to the literature.
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  Silly TV Programs From The 1960s to the 1970s

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  mcmillan & wife with rock hudson is what i just saw on tv.

  watching rock hudson kiss his wife while smoking a cigarette is pretty funny.

  and he solved a murder case as he lit up another cigarette at some wealthy person's party.....good stuff!.

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  Incognito - I'm Canadian and never heard of any of those shows! Except the Friendly Giant. That was classic. "Look up...look waaaay up. And I'll call Rusty."

  Thanks to Shirley and JamesW I now have a combo of "77 sunset strip *snap *snap*" and "there's a man who lives a life of danger" running through my head.

  As long as it doesn't get bumped by "Come listen to a story bout a man named Jed." I'll be okay.
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  I'm New... and I'm running...

  by running_away in

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  it's some kind of funny... i was the perfect little ass, even that i never believe it all.. there was something that doesn't sound right... but, i was little, i was with my family, i never believe that my family will make me adopt a cult.

  well i get batized in my mid teen years, i was the exemplar, ms at 19, even serve my time at bethel.

  get married to a pioneer, start a spiritual family, get my 2 kids.

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  You CAN run, and you CAN escape. You are in good company here - welcome.
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  Silly TV Programs From The 1960s to the 1970s

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  mcmillan & wife with rock hudson is what i just saw on tv.

  watching rock hudson kiss his wife while smoking a cigarette is pretty funny.

  and he solved a murder case as he lit up another cigarette at some wealthy person's party.....good stuff!.

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  Get Smart Beverly Hillbillies Bewitched

  Stingray My Favorite Martian Lost in Space

  The Monkees Batman Top Cat

  I agree with Shirley, the thread has become nostalgia not just silly TV. I love Star Trek and Lucy - but they are in a different category - and don't belong on a silly TV show list, IMO. I think the same is actually true of Beverly Hillbillies - the humour and perspective was a really sharp take on the experience of coping with a dramatic life change. Bewitched actually was the precursor of the whole vampire/twilight fascination, the story of a supernatural trying to live in a normal world (albeit under 60s man-is-the-boss rules). The Monkees was silly, but they were groundbreaking - they produced the very first music video.

  From sillyness comes great things, I guess!