Anybody read this.
A creepy vision of WTS reality.
What part of the book really disturbed you??
HB
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anybody read this.. a creepy vision of wts reality.. what part of the book really disturbed you??.
hb
Anybody read this.
A creepy vision of WTS reality.
What part of the book really disturbed you??
HB
i've heard alot about this book, but i've never read it.
today we happened upon a yard sale and there it was!
so i grabbed it.. i can't put the thing down.
i found the book very upsetting (read it when i was 13)
The fear, i think was from an unconcious realization of the futility of mere existence. NOW I also feel fear at the thought of the control the WTS would excercise in those circumstances.
The picture of those in the know living their own lives and others the electronic druggy reality of physical pleasure, is too like the idea of a "New System" with rulers in Heaven whilst breeder creatures ate fed fucked and dug the soil in the name of the Almighty.
HB
a law of love in hearts
jehovah wrote those .
jehovah wrote--did he really?.
Blondie -
Just spotted the bit about how when wickedness is so ingrained it is part of the person quote.
This means they are total liars when they say "lurve the sinner, not the sin." In other words those who are condemned to an existence of homosexuality, or frigidity (by virtue of disobeying the divine command to "multiply") are to be hated, because that is who they are.
I remember a cartoon where a "sticky" figure of Freddy Franz is gesticulating wildly and saying (sort of ) "IN OTHER WORDS IN VIEW OF THE NEGATIVE VOCATIVE ABLATIONAL VOICE IN THE TWELFTH LETTER OF THIS VERSE AND OTHER CONTEXTS, "Thou shalt not Kill" ACTUALLY IS A COMMAND TO TRUE CHRISTIANS TO KILL..
Loving the new Avatar,
HB
i need examples of the major doctrinal flip flops over the years.
1. sodom/gomorrah resurrection.
2. higher powers - ro.
"You will never grow old in this system" Awake May 22d 1969 page 15.
At this years DC they said it would be presumptuous to say this. Bet theyll flop when sales by older ones start floppin'!
HB
i need examples of the major doctrinal flip flops over the years.
1. sodom/gomorrah resurrection.
2. higher powers - ro.
The "Holy Place" the disgusting thing stands in. Very interesting because in order to "tack into the course of truth" , the WTS trimmed its sales (or rather adjusted its progressive understanding), in line with the changing winds of contemporary politics - turn of 20th cent end of 1st WW, and 2nd WW.
HB
i plan on exiting out quietly out of "the truth.
" i mean, i got school and becoming financially secure first before i just jump the gun.
is that smart?
What is this about a new rule that you have to go out in service during the week?
Does anybody remember the WT study that said the scribes and pharisees had made worship a matter of so many rules that "no Working man could possibly keep them"?
HB
i have just heard today that my wifes mother has died suddenly of a heart attack.
she was either in her late 60's or early 70's.
she was a jw though an inactive one.
What gets me over the whole shunning thing is that if a relative dies, and they think that they will get money, they do speak to the wicked ones.
Like Garybuss said, his son shunned him one day then went to him for money or to borrow his car the next.
HB
has anybody been watching this season's shows with the new menace, the ori?.
daniel and vala have been saved from the fanatical ori followers, but because their savior is an ori priest and they're still trapped in "borrowed" bodies in a distant galaxy they're not exactly home-free.
instead, the priest transports them to the ori's holy realm of celestis, where daniel begins to uncover the secrets of the mysterious gods.. .
Wasn't there an "outer limits" or "twighlight Zone" episode that seemed to deal with the DF issue? I saw it years ago. If those under punishment tried to speak to others or make a friend, glowing spheres floated down to stop them.
HB
the medical nurse at a convent, requests a meeting with the mother superior, the priest and the archbishop.. "and why have you requested this meeting, my child?
" asks the mother superior.. "reverend mother, there is a case of syphilis in the convent.".
"well, thank god for that - i'm sick to death of the chardonnay.".
The Medical Nurse at a convent, requests a meeting with the Mother Superior, the priest and the Archbishop.
"And why have you requested this meeting, my child?" asks the Mother Superior.
"Reverend Mother, there is a case of syphilis in the convent."
"Well, thank God for that - I'm sick to death of the Chardonnay."
HB
(this focuses on romantic love with someone you might have sex with.).
looking at the world from an evolutionary/natural selection basis, life exists to reproduce.
if it can live through the process, that's fine.
Don't you think that LOVE is something that is greater than the sum of all its parts.
In primates the emotions we now as humans called "love " produce the same physiological reactions, as with cats dogs and other mammals. They experience the same physical sensations.
Yet human advancement has produced another love, that can cross centuries - this is possibly what is called a "pre-adaptation" - along the lines that some bacteria are already equiped to resist antibiotics that have not yet been invented.
i read poetry and literature from hundreds of years ago and find myself loving the author.. Have you ever listened to old medieval love songs - people felt the same things we do.
When a person feels loved and has a purpose in life he is more likely to survive. Does this make love any the less special? At the very least it stimulates our pleasure centers.
Is "hunger" a product of evolution. Does that mean there is no point to enjoying dinner?
HB