a bit of background: she is a sweet sister who has hard a really hard life: mum killed in an accident when she was young while once-an-elder dad was off having an affair after having been released from jail after serving time as a pedophile; she spent months in hospital after the accident which killed her mother; brothers jailed as pedos, ex husband left her cold with their 6 month old son- she's had a tough life and is a really sweet lady.
she's intelligent, caring, forgiving and articulate.
far too good for jws.. she 'brought me into the truth' as they say, and as such we've always had a pretty good bond.. now, after the gossip/slander fiasco of another so-called friend running around telling everyone i'm an apostate and not to talk to me, i unfriended my jw friends from facebook with an explanation.
Some people can suffer terribly, yet still fail to learn real compassion.
Let the dead bury themselves. She will die one day like everybody else - only she thought it will never happen.
Save your love for those that deserve it, not the users at the Kingdumb Hell.
HB
congregation book study.. jeremiah book, page 167, paragraph 25:.
"gods people today are not prophets"..
That vese of Zechariah sums it up.
The false prophets start denying they were ever that .
Having said on many occasions that the WT and its followers are a "prophet" they now deny it since the internet is exposing their 100% failure rate. (Deut 18)
HB
"Listen OBEY and be Blessed"
Having learned that lesson, the next one is to GIVE to the Borg - who hands everybody a "gift" that just keeps on taking.
HB
thanks to all who suggested me this book.
almost half way through the reading.
it sheds light to the darkest secrets of this cult.
I remember a poster on here, many years ago who was told by a beth Hell phone operator, that if a person had read this book, there is really nothing that can be done to bring them back into the cult.
HB
well i've just had a quick read through the november awake on jw.org.
usual twaddle but they must have run out of 'scientists' for their monthly feature, we have a pianist this month.. sexting, morals and the menopause all there to keep you facinated for ten minutes.. george.
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St George - Remember this is a WITCHTOWER rag - are you absolutely sure it wasn't "PENIS."???
tonight on the service meeting we discussed why jws are not false prophets.
of the ten minute part two were spent discussing that jws just had wrong expectations and only very minor changes over the years although nothing specific was mentioned.
the other eight focused on the core bible truths that have remained the same over the years.
They say they are not false prophets.
Then they say they made no claim to be prophets at all. Sorry: a prophet claims to speak for Jehovah. If they are not prophets then they are not speaking for Jehovah - SO WHY WOULD ANYBODY BOTHER TO LISTEN TO THEM?
HB
so, service meeting last night.
bro handling the "false prophet" part was notably disturbed.
every time he spoke of previous "expectations" his body language was like "oh my god, can you believe i'm saying this?
Yet Freddie and Boozie R claimed that jehovah , as editor of the litterature, put his ideas and new understanding into the minds of his "slave."
Even the Revelation (anti)Climax book says that the annointed resurrected after 1918 have a part in transmoitting new understanding to the BOrg in our day. They havent done a very good job have they?
There is also an implied claim to be prophets in a 1979 - 80 Awake on alien life.
After discussing the ideas on this, they say that there cannot be any alien life forms on other planets, because the "slave has not heard about this" and Jehovah will not do anything unless he informs his servants the prophets. (THEM in other words)
HB
if one of the meanings of the name lucifer, is morning star, can someone please explain to me the last line in revelation 22:16?.
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Cold Steel -
The Israelites were in Egypt for nearly 500 years. The Egyptians were very noble sophisticated just and merciful. That's where the Israelites got these values. Just like they stole Babylonian Myths and made them their own.
Read about Egypt. Parts of Proverbs are just lifted from Egyptian sacred texts. Even the idea of a day of rest was Egyptian. Resurrection was an Egyptian concept long before Moses compiled (stole) the writings he and others used.
I find it most amusing that you point to the Jewish Law as soo wonderful. The rest of the civilised world worked out for themselves that lying, murder, cheating, stealing, adultery and covetousness were evil, for centuries - yet the Hebrews needed God to tell them, in 1513 BC!! And of course there is no Egyptian Law that forces a rape victim to marry her attacker as long as her father is given money.
YHWH appears to be a homicidal psychopath if Joshua, Judges and parts of the Pentateuch are true. Genocide on a scale that makes Hitler look like St Francis of Assisi. (Do a body count from the scriptures)
HB
it isn't much, only a small piece on page 23 of sunday's sun newspaper .
for our colonial cousins the sun is a highbrow , well respected national daily newspaper , well national daily anyway .
on sunday it printed a small article about what it describes as a jehovah's witness paedophile whose sex crimes had been hushed up by his church .
The TIMES is read by the people who run the country.
The DAILY MAIL is read by people who want to run the country.
The SUN is read by people who don't care who runs the country, as long as they have big boobies.
years ago you read my horror stories about being raped by a jw.
i was nine years old when this took place, now the man has been getting all his works in order.
what do i do to stop the seventy-year old pedophile from getting his position back?
JR Brown is talking with a forked weasel tongue:
Beth Hell decides if the congo a pedophile moves to is to be informed or not. If the new elduhs are not told of the crime, how can they take great care to protect the children before they appoint him?
They have the power to decide if somebody is a "KNOWN" pedo in the new congregation.
Yet smoking and drinking info is passed straight along with no problems.
HB
