Posts by hamsterbait

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Was Charles Taze Russell A Drug User, Drug Abuser, or Even An Addict?

by West70 in

20 years ago

in his lengthy address at russell's funeral, menta sturgeon disclosed the following: .

"you know that our dear brother was so considerate of the feelings of others that he never drew much on the sympathy of the friends --so considerate was he, that but few knew that he had been a physical sufferer for thirty years.".

only a few months after sturgeon made the above disclosure at russell's funeral, this "different version" was published on page 57 of the finished mystery book: .

19 years ago

hamsterbait 20 years ago

Until drug addiction and abuse was recognized as a problem, little old ladies used to inject each other at afternoon tea for a "lift".

Some doctors visited every day to deliver a morphine injection to elderly clients.. Coca Cola, until the 20's contained cocaine (hence the name) it was "the most refreshing drink in the world and relieves fatigue." people drank it and took an aspirin at parties to enhance the effect.

Laudanum, and tincture of opium were over the counter medicines, as were arsenic and tartar emetics. Sherlock Holmes called for his 5% solution of morphine.

it is unfair to criticize him by 21st century standards. perhaps in the 23rd century we will be criticized for taking Pepto, or codeine based cough medicines - maybe even nicotine and alcohol. (The future is a scary place)

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When did God choose the WT to be the truth?

by MegaDude in

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20 years ago

could someone direct me to a society publication or scan where the wt claims god picked them out of all the religions to be the truth?

what year did this supposedly take place in?

i'm prepping someone on how to talk to a jw they are in contact with.

20 years ago

hamsterbait 20 years ago

in the Gospels, Jesus said that he would appoint the FDS upon his arrival.

The reinterpretation of the Sheep and Goats parable, put jesus arrival and Judgement at some time future.

So the FDS cannot have been appointed yet.

The WTS invented an argument that Christ "arrives" in more than one sense at different times to explain this away, but there are no scriptures that state this explicitly.

According to St Paul Christ comes once concerning Sin, and then a judgement. (what is the scripture??)

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Will Jehovah prevent men from going to Mars?

by truthseeker in

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20 years ago

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a few of the friends i have spoken to over the years seemed to think that jehovah would never allow man to leave the planet and visit another.. "we have to get this planet right first", they said.. i thought at the time, perhaps the furthest man would be allowed to go would be the moon.. recently, president bush announced a new space initiative for nasa - first the moon by 2017, then mars by 2020-2030.. what are your thoughts?.

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20 years ago

hamsterbait 20 years ago

The space program has generated hundreds if not thousands of dollars of wealth for every $1 put into it.

Without it we would not have cellphones around the world (look how many billions in profits that makes every day from people saying "Hi Honey, I'm on my way, give me five minutes") the internet, PCs (as we know them) the list goes on.

The improvements in medical technology are accelerating from in-space research.

God will only stop a trip to Mars if he wants to scupper our futures (again)

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Was Jesus the first creation.

by ajie in

20 years ago

as i mentioned in my last post that im studying the book what the bible really teaches,anyway im now on the bit about who is jesus,now it uses the scripture col1:15 does this prove he was created where it says hes the firstborn.

20 years ago

hamsterbait 20 years ago

I haven't had time to read all this as I am going out. (Apologies in advance if i repeat a point)

Jesus is called "the only BEGOTTEN son" the "only BEGOTTEN god"-

IF these writers meant he was just the first to be created in the same way as everything else, why not say so.

The use of BEGOTTEN shows the writers are trying to point something important about the nature of Christ.

He is not a mere bigger better creation than a squirrel or a universe or a virus. With regard to creation the WTS among others seem to have the "apprenticeship" idea. On earth Christ was apprenticed to a carpenter until he could make nice chairs. In heaven he was apprenticed to God until he could make nice universes. Hmmm.

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Police caution woman for breastfeeding in public!

by nicolaou in

20 years ago

i just watched the local bbc news and there was a story about a woman who'd fed her baby while sitting on a public bench.

she finished and was on her way when a police car drew up beside her and asked her to stop.

there had been a complaint.

20 years ago

hamsterbait 20 years ago

Actually urinating in front of others only came to be frowned on in the sexcrazed 19 christian century.

In 16th and 17th century London, the theaters had urinals at the walls. The globe had them behind the back row on each tier. Men went to pee and could watch the play at the same time. The puritans put paid to it.

In some parts of France you can still find urinals, where the upper body and legs are visible and the trough is there to catch the pee. In the street. Men go in and continue talking to their girlfriends and companions, and you can see it flowing away... Of course peeing is not a sexual signal except for the urolagially inclined.

Whee. AND: Littletoe, did you know that in Scotland a man can crap in public, and it is not illegal unless he pees, or shows his genitalia. Must be why you invented the Kilt...

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Self Abuse

by startingover in

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20 years ago

something occurred to me while i was reading the promiscuous sex thread.

the wt always refers to masturbation as self abuse.

i googled it and came up with many sites that linked it to cutting oneself, but only a couple that linked those words to masturbation, one being a site about sda prophetess ellen white, and the other some religious site.. of course if you type in self pleasure then you get the masturbation links.

16 years ago

hamsterbait 20 years ago

Ol' Freddie, Nate and Rutherbooze, grew up in a country where there were quack Christian Doctors, who would perform castration operations on boys (for a fee of course). To save them from Satan.

There are ads in magazines for spiked rings which a boy had to wear to wake him up in case of an erotic dream. They never questioned their assumptions or prejudices on this or beards.

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the delusion of believing they are "good witnesses"

by cyber-sista in

20 years ago

i remember how the org always encouraged us to be a "good witness" by telling others about our jw activities and putting our theocratic interests above everything else.

this is a major jw delusion that anyone who is not a jw will be impressed by our unwavering loyalty to the wt org.

just recently my husband had a family reunion we attended in another state.

20 years ago

hamsterbait 20 years ago

"WE are all so wonderful witlesses and you are all evil birdfood."

It has the same fascination as a freak show or a trip through a medieval lunatic asylum.

That morbid fascination - you know you shouldn't look but can't help it. That's how the few WORLDLINGS who can be bothered looking see them.

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Once life is discovered outside outside the realm of earth...

by undercover in

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20 years ago

how will it affect you?.

aa's thread on scientist's "creating" life got me to thinking about how people would react if life was discovered on other planets or solar systems.

the movie "contact" explored that some along with how faith and science combat but yet complement each other.. would life on other planets pretty much destroy much of earth's religious myths?

20 years ago

hamsterbait 20 years ago

(leo -

I bow my head in shame at your misrepresentation.

The article said yes there was extra terrestrial life namely ANGELS.

They implied that if God had created physical life he would have told the FDS about it, and that if God had created intelligent life on other planets it rendered the whole test and ransom of Adam and Jesus a waste of time.

( at the last I thought of the parable where the shepherd leaves the 99 sheep to find the lost one - you know 99 faithful "ur" couples) see CS lewis on this...

The other "proof" of no intelligent ETs (FDS, ' member?) was that in 100 years of wireless telegraphy, we had not heard anything from anybody. Bearing in mind the speed of radio waves, it only shows that there is no advanced radio able civilization within less than 50 light years who can communicate with us.

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Do you think that JW's leaders are going to announce a new date in 2006?

by booker-t in

20 years ago

i was reading a thread here the other and it mentioned that the assembly for 2006 will be "delivance at hand".

is this going to be like 1974 when every jw's thought the end was going to come in 1975?

i don't think jw's leaders would be that stupid again and build jw's for another date-setting letdown.

20 years ago

hamsterbait 20 years ago

"many will come saying "" the time is at hand "" do not listen to them ..." (luke 21)

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Elders School Part 4: Beat, er, I mean shepherd the sheep

by sir82 in

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20 years ago

talk # 13: shepherd the flock of god in your care, part 1 - brother bethel-coot.

synopsis: jesus told peter to feed his little sheep, so elders should shepherd the flock.

elders should be sincerely concerned for flock, approachable.

20 years ago

hamsterbait 20 years ago

GARYBUSS -

You are SO right. I went to my "keep the elders out of my hair" meeting this week and it was a 67 year old elder ( who must have read the May 22 1969 Awake , p 15 "remember you will never grow old in this system")

and he was saying how lacking in faith we are if we doubt that Armageddy will come in our life time.

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