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  Y'all gotta admit, i got strong Faith

  by Legendary U.2.K. in

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  <i>me & my girlfriend decided a long time ago(2 years) that we not having kids.

  for reasons, but one of the reasons is because, we gonna wait till the next life(isaiah 65:17/new paradise earth), another reason is cause, we knoweth that the messiah will come back in our life time..... now that's hella strong faith, we have faith that the final destruction/peace & safety/armageddon will happen in our life time.... so we waiting!

  great right?</i>

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  It's in a parable, in Matthew 22. The 'who's wife will she be' one, but I'm sure that's not the only place.

  Bang
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  Y'all gotta admit, i got strong Faith

  by Legendary U.2.K. in

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  <i>me & my girlfriend decided a long time ago(2 years) that we not having kids.

  for reasons, but one of the reasons is because, we gonna wait till the next life(isaiah 65:17/new paradise earth), another reason is cause, we knoweth that the messiah will come back in our life time..... now that's hella strong faith, we have faith that the final destruction/peace & safety/armageddon will happen in our life time.... so we waiting!

  great right?</i>

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  Sure that you shouldn't be having children now?

  "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God"

  Or do jws think that there's a class thing going on there?

  Bang

  Edited by - Bang on 8 July 2002 3:38:59
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  Do you care that you offend JW's?

  by wholewheat in

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  this is a sincere question.

  do you worry about offending active witnesses?

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  I find it to be disturbing and quite disappointing that the truth does offend them. Even so, I will not lie to spare their feelings. On occasion I may disengage from them. If the real truth is offensive to them then there is something very amiss there. People were so offended by Christ that they crucified Him.

  Should I be rude? No. Should I accomodate their lies about Christ? As yet I can't see why I should.

  Bang
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  Fornication & the wtbts

  by Bang in

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  spiritually?

  fornication - engaging in the pleasure that comes from spreading your 'seed' around with the ones you like the look of, and when your 'drunk' just about anyone - not particularly concerned about marriage or the result of the union.

  i suppose it includes spilling your seed without impregnating, as long as you got to use the person.

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  There are those who try to "pick up" others with their good looks and carefully protected reputation, and those who are concerned for all those they meet.

  There are those who love for better or worse, and others who 'love' for a reason that is actually about themself.

  There are those who want to have 'relations', and those who want to truly love.

  There are those who marry because they're supposed to, and yet there are those who marry and are yet chaste (Is that people like unicef?)

  Bang
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  A Question I've Always Wondered About!

  by patricia in

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  i've often wondered about god's promise to hagar, ishmael"s mother in genesis 16:10 and 17:20 where he promises that he will greatly multiply her descendants making them too numerous to count, and also telling abraham that he would also bless ishmael and "he would certainly produce twelve chieftains, and i will make him become a great nation".

  verse 25 also mentions that ishmael was circumcised which would make him part of the covenant made between jehovah and abraham.

  in genesis 21:13, after telling abraham to drive hagar and ishmael out of his camp as sarah told him to do, god promised abraham that he would make a nation of ishmael too, because he was also abraham's son.

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  It's about promise and labour.

  Hagar was highminded and contemptuous of Sarai because of her effort (remind you of anyone?). Being good as He is, God blessed Ishmael also.

  Abraham didn't drive out Hagar; He reminded Sarai that it was within her power to deal with Hagar as she pleased - Sarai dealt harshly with her (I suppose we do it somewhat to jws and others who are contemptuous and self-righteous by their own effort - to an extent). Anyway, the kingdom is not something that is bought and sold. Hagar of course had no right to be like that.

  Isaac is the fruit that comes by promise (without payment) - this then is the truly Good News. Jws don't tell of the Good News - their news comes with an IF.

  As to the Arab nation, that's a broad consideration. Are Ishmael's spiritual descendants actually the Arab's?

  Bang

  Edited by - Bang on 7 July 2002 23:30:47
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  Witnesses Not Budging on 1914

  by stevieb1 in

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  just attended the sunday of the zealous kingdom proclaimers district convention in manchester, england and during the final talk we had an update on the world situation as it relates to jehovah's witnesses.

  the speaker was peter ellis, a member of the london bethel branch committee.. he stated that many had been waiting for armageddon for some years and some have become disappointed that it hasn't yet arrived, and that newer jw's did not seem to have the same degree of faith as some of the old-timers in the faith, hence this was of serious concern.

  then he said something along the lines of 1914 being set in stone and that the organization was not going to get any new light on this key doctrine, hence we can be sure that armageddon is very near.. interesting don't you think?

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  It's the only date they've got that people in many parts of the world can identify with an actual 'other'' event. Though it doesn't matter a hoot to many nations, the west, Europe & Asia all know that something happened in 1914, so it's a claim to fame.

  So it's "set in stone" then - does that mean they want to keep it in their hearts?

  Bang
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  Question for JWs: What `Study Aid' is the Best?

  by Room 215 in

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  calling all jw lurkers:.

  after the bible (i assume you all agree that it's a christian's single most important souce of information), what's the next most important publication?

  how many of you agree that it's a concordance?

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  The best sudy aid is what you know to be right and wrong ("I want kindness"). The Spirit confirms what you understand to be really Good News, Gospel (God's spell), a refreshment of wonder.

  But that's not really how it is, is it. People want to nail Him down so they can continue to do things that are less honourable than is meant for them.

  Bang

  Edited by - Bang on 7 July 2002 22:19:33
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  Birdseed?

  by Bang in

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  why in the world would apostates be called birdseed?.

  i assure you that it is not you, but they themselves.

  they retain the word, but it's not in their heart, so take heart - you were right to reject the doctrine.. "..when they hear, satan comes immediately..".

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  Bang

  Why in the world would apostates be called birdseed?

  I assure you that it is not you, but they themselves. They retain the Word, but it's not in their heart, so take heart - you were right to reject the doctrine.

  "..when they hear, Satan comes immediately.."

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  The spiritual fornicators

  by Bang in

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  who are they?they don't love for better or worsethey came for sex (and unload their seed)if your not dazzled by their appearance, and unreceptive, they can lie - "whatever it takes"the care is in reality superficial, it's really about themthey don't love honourably with or without the "sex"are often concerned with how they appear and are thought ofafter they get their way, if you don't like them; they either don't care and/or may call you namesthey may care enough to do the right thing (marry to please the beast) if the seed takes.

  seems clear enough.. bang

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  Bang

  Who are they?

  • They don't love for better or worse
  • They came for sex (and unload their seed)
  • If your not dazzled by their appearance, and unreceptive, they can lie - "whatever it takes"
  • The care is in reality superficial, it's really about them
  • They don't love honourably with or without the "sex"
  • Are often concerned with how they appear and are thought of
  • After they get their way, if you don't like them; they either don't care and/or may call you names
  • They may care enough to do the right thing (marry to please the beast) IF the seed takes

  Seems clear enough.

  Bang
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  Poisoning the Womb

  by IslandWoman in

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  i know this has been mentioned before but i'd just like some input on this.. i would like to go "door to door" again, i miss it so.

  what i am interested in is succinct criticisms of the watchtower that would turn off a householder to jehovah's witnesses.

  nothing sensational just simple truths in easy to understand statements.

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  Bang

  Here's one,

  I am a JW, one of the spiritual fornicators. i.e. we don't care enough to stay and love you for better or worse, we do however want to leave our seed, especially if you're receptive, but if your not we tell a few lies, only some - "whatever it takes".

  I'll post that I think.

  Bang