Hey,
I'm happy for you and hope things are good for you there.
btw,I was in Ottawa in 2001 for a jw wedding.He turned out to be a freak in more ways than one and she's still with him,the loyal,submissive jw wife.
Goldminer
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Finally
by Lady Lee inafter 9 long months of living in a shelter at the y here in ottawa in one tiny room --- .
i have finally got a place to live.. it is small and i will have to get rid of a few things - ok a lot of things but i will have a home again.
it is a small apartment in a seniors residence.
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After our infamous PO letter of 1998 I started asking questions and never got any answers.The PO sais he got his instructions from the society so I asked the CO if that's where the instructions came from.He said the local bodies of elders can do what they want locally.OK.
Is that what you call passing the buck?From then on I really started thinking there was a lot of hypocrisy in this organization,I started fading a year later,still am because the wife just won't let go and be happy.
Goldminer
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What do YOU know about the power of the mind?
by Frannie Banannie ini've a little experience in the past with what my mind has done to create a reality for me that would help me resolve or overcome my fear of leaving the cult, but i'm interested in what experiences or actual knowledge any of yall have on the subject.
it seems mind power may well be a resource well worth tapping into.. what are yall's thoughts on this subject?.
frannie
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I have the audio program The Psychology of Winning by Denis Waitley.It is very mind-opening to the way we think and how we perceive things.For example,what the mind dwells upon,the body acts upon;if you constantly think you're sick,you probably will be.Also,it's not what you are that's holding you back,it's what you think you are not.For example,you might think you could never be really good at something because that's how you perceive it in your mind when in reality you could succeed at it.
Anyways,I've listened to it many times and I've truly benifited from it.The mind really is a very powerful thing.
Goldminer
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Continuing to lay the groundwork for my exit.
by ithinkisee inwell, last night i was completely determined to tell my wife just three things i had learned.
i was just going to focus on lies - not scripture, or stupid stuff ... just lies.. 607/1914trinity (trinity brochure lies)cross (reasoning book lies and archeaology).
if she starts to question other stuff, or if she starts in on a debate about the trinity, i was going to shut her down and let her know i am willing to talk to her about that - but not right now.
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Ithinkisee,
Hey,how's it going?This thread has been very interesting to read.I'm still following your story very closely,it's like a good soap-opera,and also,I'm in the same boat as you when it comes to my wife(I think I dropped my paddle !@#$%).My wife is inactive and attends very few meetings,she's dying of guilt and blames me for her depression and spiritual suffering.Yet at the same time time she is extremely loyal to the WTS and it seems that no amount of reasoning can get her to think for herself.
Anyways,you seem quite determined,I hope you succeed and I"m cheering for you man.
Goldminer
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If you could change just one thing in the org.........
by ButtLight inwhat would it be?
for me i would get rid of the disfellowshipping!
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their existence....
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Another letter from WBTS re: UN Scandal
by Gadget inquite a while ago i mentioned to my parents about the un scandal but they didn't seem too interested, but when i called in the other day my mother mentioned it to me again.
they had a elder and his wife (family friends who i was previously very very close to) staying with them for the convention and discussed it with them.
the elders wife is a very strong personality and super-spiritual but when she heard of the scandal back in spring she had a huge problem with it.
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Keep in mind,they're not Lion Tamers,they're Lyin' Bastards!
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Convention Drama, an example of Anachronistic Propaganda
by VM44 inthe recent 2005 "godly obedience" convention drama is an example of an anachronism!
and of propaganda!.
so why is the dram an example of anachronistic propaganda?.
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Yes,I have to agree,it was pure propaganda.It wasn't that long ago they were saying higher education was now ok,now they've reverted back to their old way of thinking.No wonder the average jw is so confused.
Goldminer
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An End To Shunning
by Sunspot inwell, in my case anyway.
for those of you that may recall my posts about my family and that after i left the wts, how i wrote long (and painful) letters to my nonjw children among others.
i had tried to explain why i had shunned them and how very sorry i was, and for all the mistakes i had made throughout their childhoods as a jw mother.
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Ex-jw who joined as adults: How did you come to trust your own conscience?
by Check_Your_Premises insorry no raised-a-dub responses here!
just ex-jw who joined as adults.
on another thread i pointed out the idea that most jw who join as adults, do so out of a need to compensate for or as a reaction to some bad experiences such as physical abuse, sexual abuse, a time of upheaval, or just a plain old poorly developed sense of self.
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When the letter campaign hit us,only 4 of us dared say it was wrong.Three of us are no longer associated with the jw's.
I believe I had grown as a person enough by then to stand on my own.I knew right away that this letter stuff was wrong and I even said that the complete body of elders had to be removed because they were not united and only one of them was strong enough to stand up to the PO.Everybody knew the PO ruled with an iron fist and you couldn't challenge his authority.
Goldminer
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Ex-jw who joined as adults: How did you come to trust your own conscience?
by Check_Your_Premises insorry no raised-a-dub responses here!
just ex-jw who joined as adults.
on another thread i pointed out the idea that most jw who join as adults, do so out of a need to compensate for or as a reaction to some bad experiences such as physical abuse, sexual abuse, a time of upheaval, or just a plain old poorly developed sense of self.
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I left because I had a bad experience that led me to doubt the divine appointment of the WTS as god's approved organization on earth.
The PO wrote a letter to all male members of the congregation(baptized and unbaptized) telling them about their field service activities and where they needed to improve.Anybody who wasn't averaging 10 hours a month.no matter what their circumstances,immediately lost any privileges they had.The letter also said we'd be reviewed on a quarterly basis(every 3 months) and that adjustments would be made accordingly.Apparently none of the elders had seen this letter until some of us started showing them.There was no disciplinary action taken against the PO.Once he realized the damage he had done he made a tearful apology for writing us a letter(not for the damage he did) and got away with it.The CO even sided with him.It was downhill for our congregation after that and 7 years later there is still some effects being felt.
I'm planning on on having my letter posted on the internet some time soon.I feel ready now to let everyone see the hypocrisy we had to live with here.
btw,the only elder who stood up against the wrongful letter campaign was soon removed.
Goldminer