Now, what can I ask for? when we negociate a new contract...
How about "the truth"?
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they wouldn't need as many elders and ms.. you could miss meetings and not many would notice.. brothers and sisters would be less stressed, since they wouldn't be asked to perform as much.. they would need less kingdom halls.. they would need less readers at the book study and watchtower meeting.. .
Now, what can I ask for? when we negociate a new contract...
How about "the truth"?
i couldn't figure out whether to put this in "research", "humor" or "adult".
however, since i had to do research to compile it, it ended up here...awake!
1. wash your hands with soap and water after contact with feces and before handling food.. .
After having a big dump you go over to the sink and turn on the taps with your poopy hands. You wash well and then turn off the (still poopy) taps. You then exit the washroom and touch the door handle where the last person ( who did not wash his hands) had touched it.Time to make lunch...
That's why they had to discontinue the food service arrangement at assemblies. Too many got dysentery. People were so busy in the potty, they couldn't get to the contribution boxes.
hi all, the goods coming from sir's appraisal of the elders school (great job, btw!
) are very upsetting... i know i'm very angry about what the leaders are being told to do, and i can see it in everybody elses comments too.
just thought i'd try an exercise to bring a bit more joy into our lives at this time..... what have you achieved since escaping the cult?
What have you achieved since escaping the cult?
I've reached nirvana.
In spite of the anger, the loneliness and confusion, you must have been able to do something with your new freedom... where has it taken you so far?
I joined the Foreign Legion and right now I'm in Libya.
What do you look forward to now?Watching The Amazing Race and The Apprentice on meeting nights.
with the "new" way jw's are expelled from the congregations how would the congregation know who left on their own(disassociated) themselves or was disfellowshipped for "wrongdoing".
when i left the elders told me that they would tell the congregation that i "disassociated"my self and that would be that.
the whole congregation would know that i left on my own and was not expelled for immorality or wrongdoing.
Do you think JW's leaders will eventually do away with the announcing and shunning former JW's in the congregations all together? Or will they continue to shun and expell members?
Hold on... let me check....
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"a people for his name" by timothy white is an early, but still excellent, book about the history of the jws.. here is a page containing portions from the book.
http://members.fortunecity.com/peopleforhisname/peopleforhisname.htm.
Got $500.00? I know where you can get a copy.
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"a people for his name" by timothy white is an early, but still excellent, book about the history of the jws.. here is a page containing portions from the book.
http://members.fortunecity.com/peopleforhisname/peopleforhisname.htm.
As Stev mentioned, "Timothy White" appears to be a pseudonym. There were a number of statements in White's book that would certainly not cast the religion in a favorable light. The following is an example of such. It's an excerpt taken from page 372 of "A People For His Name":
"When one becomes a Witness he cuts off from himself all former friends and builds an entirely new life completely wrapped up in his religion. He becomes separate from the world, renounces many of his hobbies, sports and other interests. Even his secular job becomes second in importance. If he is an extrovert, as all successful witnesses must be, he gains happiness in his new role of spiritual salesman. His interest and energy become centered on the multifarious activities of the New World Society -- preparing talks, conducting studies, teaching his children, attending assemblies and working at them and associating with his new found friends. A disfellowshipping cuts him suddenly and sweepingly off from all of this. His brothers avoid him for fear of becoming in like condition and he may no longer give talks at meetings. He cannot discuss religion at all with his wife and she takes over the teaching of the children for fear he may contaminate them with wrong ideas."
i was watching the history channel this weekend and they had a show on the global flood story.
it was pretty interesting, mostly the same old stuff and some commentators from different religions.
while i was watching this, two thoughts kept coming to mind:.
There, there now, TS. You'll feel much better after you have a chat with Noah in the new system.
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"a people for his name" by timothy white is an early, but still excellent, book about the history of the jws.. here is a page containing portions from the book.
http://members.fortunecity.com/peopleforhisname/peopleforhisname.htm.
So the author might have a garage full of the books! --VM44
Either that or the WBTS got 'em and disposed of 'em. Remember --- that's "old" light. Don't wanna have any incriminating stuff out there.
Lack of interest shown by the book buying public.
Who of the public wants to read about a perpetual spiritual boot camp?
Regardless of the JWs saying that the "eyes" of the world are upon their activity, no one really cares about them at all!About the size of it. The only people who care are JWs and comedians.
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"a people for his name" by timothy white is an early, but still excellent, book about the history of the jws.. here is a page containing portions from the book.
http://members.fortunecity.com/peopleforhisname/peopleforhisname.htm.
I called Vantage Press today to see if, by some freak chance, there might be a few copies stashed away (a REAL stab in the dark, as the book was published almost 40 yrs. ago). No dice. No 2nd or 3rd editions, either. Evidently not enough initial copies were sold to warrant further printings. All extra copies were then returned to the author. Happy hunting, kids!
i am currently reading coc (just starting chapter 11 - point of decision).
i was also just reading on shaun's site the time magazine article (http://www.jwfiles.com/franz-article.htm) on ray franz's shunning.
i didn't realize that he and many other dissenters believe that all who belive in christ will go to heaven.
If you were once a JW, what do you now believe about the heavenly hope?
After JW de-programming, I then completed the Bible de-construct phase. I do not believe in a heavenly hope. The search continues.