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  Sharing Your new light with your Parents

  by pratt1 in

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  every so often i get to share some of my thooughts about the borg and my new found beliefs with my mom , who is a die hard pioneer for over 20 years.. we actually have had decent conversations about doctrines and interpertations of the scriptures, and she has admitted that at times the borg may have misapplied certain scriptures over the years.. her excuse is that imperfect men sometimes make mistakes and jehovah makes allowances for this.. but what really gets her upset is when i bring up certain aspects of my childhood, that because of her belief in the borg, she made some unwise decisions for not only me be her family.. me getting baptized at 13, her not being fully supportive of higher education, cutting off family members, pushing me into an early marriage when i was clearly not ready, teaching me that all "worldly people', including my father woiuld die at armageddon, these are just a few examples that when we discuss them, she becomes extremely angry and then accuses me of making her out to be a bad mother.. i got me thinking, do you think that many dubs refuse to acknowledge the problems with their religion because it would mean that they made some really bad decsions in their and their families lives.. are they afraid to accept the responsiblity for this because of the guilt they would suffer?.

  what are your thoughts?

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  JayHawk1 I like this point: Jehovah managed to get men to write the Bible without their making a mistake.
  I sure hope that when the time comes......I remember it! Nice piece of reasoning!
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  Panic Away

  by xjw_b12 in

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  panic away by joe barry.

  has anyone read this book, and if what were your opinions?.

  regards:.

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  Any more info? Havent heard of it....
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  Bible Teach: Baptism does not indicate dedication to an organization

  by M.J. in

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  2. bible

  from "what does the bible really teach?

  ", p. 18 (emphasis mine).

  *** bh chap.

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  Only on the surface. as has been pointed out, this book is designed to hook the newbies, who then later get to discover the real rules....only when it is too late!
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  Lurkers! Proof that the Organization is not "Clean"!

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the greatest proof that the organization is not "clean" by its own definition, is this website!.

  consider the number of people - elders included - who post here, thereby associating with "apostates" or expressing their own disbelief.

  in whatever nonsense the watchtower is teaching.

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  HI Lurker, you live up to your name!! 5 posts since may 05. Someone in the last two days has ben asking if someone high up in the structure could abuse the position and benefit personally from all the dollars that flow thick and fast into the society's coffers. It would seem on the surface that there are many checks and balances that would prevent this, but you are suggesting that this is not the case? I have read where Knorr used to have a first class ticket for his meeting bag, but this may go a bit deeper?
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  YOU WONT BELIEVE THIS!! ONE OF THE JWs THAT EGGED OUR HOUSE KNOCKED

  by Lady Liberty in

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  unbelieveable!!!.

  well, that was unbelieveable!!

  just after i posted our latest ordeal with our jw neighbors, and their jw friends pulling down our frosty, egging our house and car, we got a knock on the door!

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  Thanks for sharing your story and the article on the catacombs as well as the simple but effective chart on 607. I had a guy who studied years ago bring this up. The SDA's had called on him and he mentioned he was studying with JW's.
  The guy raised the 607 thing. The study went to the library, got out some books and couldn't find 607 any where. So he asked me. He said if it is such an important date, I should be able to prove it fairly quickly. I couldn't.
  I took a most studiuos guy back with me, he ahd done his wts research, and thought we would hit this guy with both barrels....alas we couldn't. I took two other people and still no proof, we couldnt convince him.
  
  Were my alarm bells ringing? NO....... blinkers on solid. I said to him, that where history is different to the bible, I have to stick with the bible and it is solid on 607!!!!!! What a d--- h--d [me].
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  hey expioneers and exelders what goes on during......

  by 5go in

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  2. scandals

  the co visit during those meetings you guys go to.

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  Wasanelder Once has summed it up nicely. The real bitch fights took place away from the "official" meetings. Just before I "stepped down" I went to the c/o and bitched about a pain in the ass elder who had shifted in, was dictating the show and living in the "wrong" territory. So I whined and bitched and .........the c/o transferred him to another local cong cause they had an exceptional need for elders!!!!
  hahaha
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  Could someone be amassing a personal fortune at Watchtower land?

  by Gill in

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  2. friends

  how sure can we be that no one or even two or more jw is amassing a personal fortune at the expense of the watchtower slaves and the watchtower society?.

  locally, there was an elder who was able to have affairs with three different women, including his wife for thirty years.

  during that same time he had his hand in the contribution box to keep his business going.. we're talking thirty years here.. i agree with many posts here that the legal dept actually run the wtbts now and not the governing body.

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  Hey what about some do-gooder who buys the c/o a car or loads them up with cash each time they come around? Does he declare all that to the tax department? Or what about the c/o who knows how to play the system and can hint at what he needs so that people will buy it for him....in exchange for a talk the the assembly?
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  Could someone be amassing a personal fortune at Watchtower land?

  by Gill in

  1. jw
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  how sure can we be that no one or even two or more jw is amassing a personal fortune at the expense of the watchtower slaves and the watchtower society?.

  locally, there was an elder who was able to have affairs with three different women, including his wife for thirty years.

  during that same time he had his hand in the contribution box to keep his business going.. we're talking thirty years here.. i agree with many posts here that the legal dept actually run the wtbts now and not the governing body.

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  It must be possible in some way or other. Some of these guys are in positions of trust, and some are trustee's for the ownership of Halls. I have heard about some Aussie guy from Adelaide, South Australia who used a K Hall as security for a loan that went belly up and the hall was repossessed!
  Knorr used to have two first class seats on the plane, one for him and one for his witnessing bag.
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  Do you find the forum addictive?

  by avidbiblereader in

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  2. beliefs

  how many find that they need or want to be on the forum at least once a day?

  do you like keeping up with fellow posters and friends or do like being able to give your thoughts without the fear of being criticized?

  i look at some of the amounts that some have posted wow and i am no better for only being here less than a month, it is a great place to talk and get loads of wisdom from others on a variety of subjects, thanks everyone for the thoughtful expressions and heartfelt posts.. abr.

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  Addictive........well.... I have tried to get on with things, but then something happens, I get a bit annoyed about something, or I want to know about something that I have heard about in dub world and back I come, and generally it is mentioned here...even before the dubz in dubdom know about it, and I love that.
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  I finally did it!!

  by Irreverent in

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  i volunteered and gave blood for the first time this past tuesday.

  my heart condition has improved to the point that my doctor okayed my donating blood.

  i am kind of a wuss when it comes to shots and needles; but being in a hospital in intensive care gets you over that.

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  Good on you, I am thinking seriously about doing this, one of many normal community minded things there are to be done