Posts by TheListener

The WTS has targeted MySpace. Now they will target YouTube. They will not want the brothers and sisters either posting information/videos nor making comments to the postings of others.

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Revelation Study This Week - Russell and 1914

by jgnat in

i'm on revelation duty again this week.

i figure if i'm marking it, i can comment on it, too.

http://reactor-core.org/faith-on-the-march.html (faith on the march page 47 and 48).

TheListener

Hi Jgnat.

I looked over my wife's study book for this week. Oh man was it irritating. I just wanted to scream.

Most dubs just glaze over at the meetings, even if you can believe it, the bookstudy!

When I conducted the Revelation book I never knew what the Society used to teach about the dates. I bought it hook line and sinker.

If I did know I probably wouldn't have brought it up in case it stumbled someone. After all the organization is imperfect and always making adjustments.

Good quotes.

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More FEARmongering.....

by R.F. in

i've missed meetings consistently for about 2 months now.

my ex-fiancee just left a energy-filled voicemail.

she said........... "please come back to the meetings!

TheListener

Right on R.F., right on.

You are so lucky that you didn't marry her. It couldn't have been easy to let her go, but it was best for both of you.

Perhaps she will think about some of the things you said and eventually she'll leave herself. Then she can visit you and your wife and kids and see what she missed out on. whooooo-aaaaaah

OK maybe that's just silly.

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i was sexually abused as a child and the witness's accepted it and helped me granted they didn't go into depth about it with me but they do not cover it up they just dont like things publicized not every rape or sexual abuse is put on the news so why should a witness being raped be put on the news they are private people why not let it be

TheListener

Welcome MIndy.

I have read your posts and I'm so so sorry for what you've gone through. I am glad that the congregation took care of you and the situation you were in. I hope you also get professional help for your depression.

As far as being confused about the witnesses goes - you aren't the only one. I was raised a witness, reached positions of oversight, bethel, pioneer, etc etc. The confusion, pain and frustration I felt as I realized that everything I held so dear, so important to me wasn't all that I thought it was.

It was in the midst of this emotional turmoil that I decided to research everything I could about my religion and make a determination if it was correct or not. I found some good and pleasing things and I found other things that just didn't add up. I realized that I didn't know the Bible nearly as well as I thought - I knew Watchtower and Awake and Kingdom Ministry articles and the Society's viewpoints on matters but not the Bible. I now love to read my Bible every single day. I have never felt more in touch with my spirituality and closer to God.

I wish you the best on your journey. Please keep posting here and sharing your feelings.

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Let me introduce myself - slimboyfat

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

i was simultaneously compelled and repelled by narkissoss suggestion that it may be healthy to present a story of how we became witnesses that we can now own as former or disillusioned witnesses.

if we can now own it wouldnt it necessarily be a betrayal?

whose story is it, mine or a former self or just wishful thinking?

TheListener

Thank you Slimboy for sharing with the board.

I admire your ability to think and write clearly.

Perhaps one day I too will pen some of my defining moments in life. But, then that is easier said than done. My brain tends to release clear and factual information about my past like a sieve.

Again, thank you.

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After 18months I get called on - Elder confrontation.

by wozadummy in

firstly i will acknowlege this may be long please bear with me.. not all written here will be exactly in the sequence we discussed things, for we talked for some time at my door.. he was my former book study conductor and i still think he has good qualities that i see lacking in so many elders, but as you will see the wts mindset is like concrete in his mind.. i am writing this not to brag but to emphasise and highlight the disgusting mindset of the wts and it's leaders and members.. here we go - some may know that my wife was molested as a child for some time by her elder father.

when we married some years ago it did not take long for her to open up to me about what happened to her and needless to say we struggled with this, and eventually told the local elders what happened to her as a child.. we only went this path after she tried to get him to confess ,which he did'nt and so we followed what we thought at the time was the theocratic way and went to the elders ,and please note we sincerely wanted him to repent so he could get everlasting life.

he denied all and so followed years of heartache for my wife along with her family tormenting her and eventually abandoning her, even by at least one of her sisters whom my wife also witnessed getting done by the father though not as bad ,and my wife even as a kid tried to protect her younger sisters.. ok there is the usual wts crap "we have no witnesses" even though my wife called out to jehovah to stop him as he did this for years.

TheListener

Wozadummy,

I'm really proud of you and your wife. It takes great courage to do what you both have done.

My heart goes out to your wife. I wish the best for both of you.

The Dateline show really opened my eyes about the WT pedophile problem. You have been a fantastic husband.

Greaat job handling that elder.

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September 1st 2007 QFR re FDS

by AlphaOmega in

for your perusal.... .

TheListener

I like this thread.

I think the WTS is leaving their options open. If no real organizational changes come about then these articles just reinforce the same doctrinal line. If changes do come about then they will point to these articles as proving the point early on.

It's how they always work.

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Sad News Orangefatcat's husband died this morning.

by orangefatcat in

jw
friends

this is one of the sadest days in my life, my beloved husband marco passed away this morning at 5:15 am.. it has been a dreadful day.

but my dear friend was with most of the day while we went togerther to make funeral arrangements.. that was really hard on me.

i have done nothing but cry and cry all day, i finally fell asleep a few hours ago while my friend diane was here and she let me sleep.

TheListener

I am truly sorry for your loss OFC.

(((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))

He'll always be in your memories and your heart.

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LONG discussion with my parents. (long post of course)

by LtCmd.Lore in

jw
friends

here's an update on me... i'm 18. i'm an atheist.

i'm not making much money.

i did something i promised myself i wouldn't do: i work for witnesses.

TheListener

thank you so much for posting that. You were excellent. I wish I had your skill.