Great thread.
TD you beat me to it as well. The WTS' answer to this issue is weak and ridiculous. And it weakens their anti-blood stance.
TheListener
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Acts 15 v 1Corinthians 8: Did Paul Disagree With The Governing Body?
by Justitia Themis ini read an interesting statement in "the new testament in its social environment," by stambaugh and balch.
it referenced acts 15 and 1 corinthians as evidence that paul later disagreed with the jerusalem ruling and overturned it..on his own...without 'consulting' any group.
i found the following qfr on the cd-rom.
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Thank you, nvrgnbk!!
by AuldSoul injust wanted to drop a line of thanks for the friend who gave me the best birthday party i have ever had.. my first two cigars] ... .
thanks isn't even close to enough, m'man.. respectfully,.
auldsoul.
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TheListener
Happy birthday Auld Soul. I'm sorry I missed it. I hope to join in next year.
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I am officially divorced
by Billzfan23 inyesterday was the day - that my marriage of over 10 1/2 years to my jw wife was dissolved....finally.... - i am in a terrific mood today!
my wife and i have joint physical and legal custody of the kids which is awesome!
she doesn't make them go to meetings or go out in service and she has to allow all extra carricular activities.
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TheListener
It's great to hear from you Billzfan. I am really happy that the divorce is final.
Congratulations.
Please don't lose the information you've gathered - you never know when someone on this board may have to borrow it.
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first post
by enz inhi everyone ( "a great crowd ....
") with my first ever post .... i discovered this site a couple of wks ago and have lurking nearly every day since!
wow - what a fantastic forum - really impressed with the support and validation i see here.
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TheListener
Welcome Enz.
I'm glad you've been free for many years now. I look forward to hearing your perspective on the topics here.
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The Universal court case is rigged.........or unwinnable.
by Iron Rod infirst let me say that i'm at a point in my life where i don't even buy the idea that the bible is gods word.
this is just a thought exercise.
second, since there are so many smart folks on this board, this has possibly already been discussed.
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TheListener
If God hadn't confused our languages we would have been capable of anything we put our mind to.
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The fade is over, talked to my parents last night. (very very long)
by Paralipomenon inthere would never be a good time to have this conversation.
quite different from most people raised a witness, i have very few horror stories about my upbringing.
my family was just a family, my mom and dad fought and argued, my siblings and i misbehaved and got in trouble.. .
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TheListener
Para, you've got balls of steel and I salute you sir.
You did something that very few individuals have the stomach for.
I wish you and Bobbi all the best.
BTW, my wife plays tennis the same way your parents do.
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Hello everyone, first post.
by Frjprice inhello, i just wanted to introduce myself to everyone here - as i will be posting here.. i grew up a jw and pioneered, was a ministerial servant, ect, i was in the organization for 17 years.
i left and naturally my family did as they were told and cut off all communication with me.
this left a horrible taste in my mouth for not just jw's, but any religion for that matter.
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TheListener
Welcome frjprice. I look forward to your perspective on matters.
I also welcome someone who may help save some others from the pain the dubs can cause.
TL
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Need help finding articles: Propaganda
by smellsgood ini searched on here and on google, but i couldn't find that wonderful wt article describing the tactics of the propagandist.
which described themselves so eloquently.
anyways, i would appreciate anyone posting that article, a scan would be nice if possible.
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TheListener
That sounds good smellsgood.
Nice finds.
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"Honey, how was the meeting?"
by OnTheWayOut indo any of you with spouse or close family in ask the question?
regularly?.
i often ask the wife that question.
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TheListener
Wow OTWO you started a nice little thread and it has blossomed into a mini bonfire.
Sort of like the question "Honey, how was the meeting?"
I used to ask my wife. A mix of her being embarrassed that she didn't remember what was discussed and the gossip boring me caused me to stop asking. I think we're both happier I don't ask. When something of interest occurs she lets me know (meaning gossipy stuff, nothing spiritual).
Most dubs don't pay much attention at the meeting. Attendance is all that is mandatory to enter God's kingdom. All the other stuff is done for the purpose of showing off your spirituality like a peacock. A tired dub, or a bored dub can excuse away any amount of spiritual lethargy by internally rationalizing: 'hey I attend the meetings, and that is what Hebrews says to do.'
Marriage is like one of those really long and confusing math formulas that professors write on multiple chalk boards. Each marriage has its own formula. Every variable changes every situation differently. That's why we have to use love, kindness and consideration for our mate to help us navigate our way. I think you do that.
Many of us love our spouses very much. But, that love doesn't blind us to the realities of life. We can love our spouses but also find frustration with some aspects of their personalities.
I think you're doing a great job so far of trying to live your life, allowing your wife to peacefully live hers and striving to maintain a strong marital bond. The WTS intentionally makes that dificult to do.
Good luck buddy.
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Need help finding articles: Propaganda
by smellsgood ini searched on here and on google, but i couldn't find that wonderful wt article describing the tactics of the propagandist.
which described themselves so eloquently.
anyways, i would appreciate anyone posting that article, a scan would be nice if possible.
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TheListener
Just saw this thread. Niiiiiice.