Posts by stopthepain

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Better to Burn Out or Rust?

by Big Dog in

is it better to live life hard treating your body like an amusement park and doing things like partying hard, hang gliding, skydiving, extreme sports, etc.

or to pace yourself eating all the right foods, avoiding dangerous pastimes, watching your cholesterol, etc.

for a long and possibly duller life?

stopthepain

I don't care what happens,I will burn out,so what.

STP{of the hate my life and want to die having fun class}

25

Any commonality with dubs who join as adults?

by Check_Your_Premises in

jw
friends

i know many women who joined as adults who were victims of physical abuse or some sort of sexual assault.

i know many men who join because their wives do.. i think generally to join the dubs as an adult, you have to be looking for some sort of security.

the world probably hasn't been very nice to you.

I don't think you should feel stupid for joining.You joined with false premises,you were lied to ,and you were manipulated.You are probly guilty of trusting people that acted{and maybe to a degree }did give a crap.

I am not so angry at my parents for joining,my anger comes from,after seeing what this religions wants from you and your kids,you don't change.Obviously your out now.You should feel happy of that.

If a mechanic told you he could fix your junkbox car,and showed you pictures of other cars he fixed,why wouldn't you believe him.If you then paid him,and you got screwed,and he didn't do the work,who's fault is it?you or the lying peice of shit mechanic.Now if you kept returning to get screwed,that would be something to beat yourself up over.I know thats probly a bad example,just don't feel too bad.

They are master manipulators,using powerful human emtions against you.I think we all know people mean well when they join.You saw thru it and your out now.Good for you,you can be proud of that.

Anyway,I guess what I'm trying to say is,you were lied to,so I know your not stupid.

all the best ,STP

76

Leaving the Truth - Songs to Destroy Your Faith By

by tetrapod.sapien in

as some of you may know, i am a recently self-deconverted jw.

the experience of deconversion was at times emotional.

i have compiled a list of songs i would listen to on those emotionally turbulent occasions.

stopthepain

"can you hear me knocking" by the stones

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Any commonality with dubs who join as adults?

by Check_Your_Premises in

jw
friends

i know many women who joined as adults who were victims of physical abuse or some sort of sexual assault.

i know many men who join because their wives do.. i think generally to join the dubs as an adult, you have to be looking for some sort of security.

the world probably hasn't been very nice to you.

stopthepain

This is a very interesting thread.

My parents were raised in bad circumstances.My father had no real direction ,plus physical and emotional abuse.My mom had been sexually abused by a close family member.Itwas as if all the perfect bad circumstances alligned at once for them to become witlessess.

They were seeking answers,and we all know the jdubs have plenty of those.Witnesses THRIVE on people with low self estteem ,guilt,and people who have been shown no REAL love.

I cannott think of a single witness who was raised in a REAL loving family,or who didn't have or still have severe mental dysfunction.On the surface,the org looks like a loving family,underneath,it's a bad parent who mentally abuses it's "children".

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CD of Children's Kingdumb Music by JW Musician

by rebel8 in

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friends

vomit alert!

a poster on another forum told me about this one....... http://www.amazingcds.com/childrens.htm click on gary alt.. now do ya think this is going to go the way of the george benson kingdong melodies cd, with the wt banning it?

ewwww....the links below have samples too.... can't....bring...self...to....listen....sick....need...bucket....quickgary alt & friends.

stopthepain

Thats sick and funny all at the same time

19

Going to hell... twice.

by Daunt in

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friends

i just wanted to start this thread to vent out about how i'm being forced to go to the district assembly convention bullcrap twice all 3 days and to get a little advice on how to get out of it.

but mainly it would be interesting to know how other people got out of going to the meetings.

like acting sick, falling down and scraping your knee, different ways you got out of going to it.

stopthepain

u/d--------you are f%ckin funny!I laughed my balls off at that post.

STP{of the wish I used more excuses class}

58

whip it good

by Ms. Whip in

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friends

i was really trying to sneak in here...but, it's only right to say "hi" and make a brief introduction.

glad to be here.

i just want to say that i apologize in advance for anything i might say from here on out.

stopthepain

Shake it up,go forward,move ahead,back to detention,its not to latetoo.......................welcome to the board.STP

74

who escapes more often, those born into it or adult converts?

by kid-A in

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friends

what strikes me on this board is the number of adult converts that have left the borg, either fading out or getting df'd.

from my experience (i was born into it, 2nd generation, left before getting baptized) most of the faders or escapees were also like.

me, born into it, never really accepted it and just bowed out at the first opportunity.

stopthepain

I was born in.I feel I always had logical doubts as a youngster.I would ask questions Why did't jehoba just get rid of satan?or why doesn't jehovah care about my friends who aren't witnesses?There answers never satisfied me,because deep down I knew it didn't make sense.But,when your forced into a routine,and feel you have to go to the meetings and service,you just try to make the best of it.You learn to disguise how you feel,or even block it out all together.When the people you think you should trust are a bunch of brainwashed dopes,{parents,elders,other "authority figures"}its a recipe for pain,mental,emotional,physical pain.It becomes more like a social club,but you also believe I guess.

In answer to the question--------born in escapes more than converted.IMHO

STP

88

Apostates - blood on their hands?

by slimboyfat in

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friends

don't you think the witness leaders would have given up the blood doctrine and 1914 by now had not apostates made such big things of them?

haven't they been painted into a bit of a corner where, if they tried to adjust things on blood now, everyone would come down on them like a ton of bricks?

if apostates were not so vigilant in watching the witnesses' every move, perhaps the governing body would have tried to drop the dubious doctrines by the back door, like so many others that they have discarded when they did not feel to closely watched (organ transplants, for example).

stopthepain

If it wasn't for these "apostates" many people ,including myself,would still be brainwashed,living in fear and insecurity.Oh yeah,but thats what this cult thrives on.

I'm sure glad I didn't wait on jehobo any longer.

STP(of the thank god for apostate class)

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Life is so much better

by czarofmischief in

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friends

hey, yinz!.

just poking my blue head in once again to say hello.

i haven't been by much, but i have been perusing a little bit, just to keep tabs on all y'all.. i just wanted to say to all you newbies (and new lurkers, i'm sure) that life really does get much, much better when you leave the wts.

stopthepain

great post czarofmischief!!!!!!!!!!!!I hope any lurkers read your post.Glad you can finally enjoym life without that bs.