And JW's wonder why people think they are off their rockers.
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ELDER LIES AND GET'S PRAISED FOR IT! FALSE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST ME!
by BucketShopBill inwant to know how a lie can turn into a compliment?
only in the jw mindset!!!.
we got called into the dreaded back room after meeting to find two elders wanting to discuss a 'serious' matter with us.
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Not invited to my nephews wedding
by outforever inknew that this would be the case - so not surprised.
quite happy to not go - as i would not like to see my mother / or my big sister at all.
this nephew is my small sisters son - my small sister and myself are very close - she does not go to the meetings anymore for quite a while now, her eyes have been opened.
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It's just a little taste of what the 'new system' and paradise will be with all that JW love hanging in the air.
Only then it will be invites only to those who have achieved much closer perfection.
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Brother in law thinks I am a pagan Worshipper
by Yondaime inlast month i decided to attend the international convention at metlife since my sister's cong was invited so she took me along with my older brother.
my sister drove and my older brother sat in the front seat of her suv.
i was in the back seat with the greatest watchtower apologist/loser/eldermole in the universe my bil.. they were all chatting away about how this assembly filed with regurgitated spiritual stool was a sign of the last days since so many people would be in attendance.
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Come on, doesn't everyone know that everything is satanic and demonized except for the Watchtower magazine.
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inactive ones going back...
by monis1 ini have quite a big group of friends who were all in the cong together when we were teens.
about 75% of them stopped going or were df'd right after high school.
it is a varied group; a couple are staunch apostates, some dont care one way or another, and another handfull are fully "worldly", but still believe it is the truth.
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Officially out for almost 10 years.
Never will go back to that trash.
However, the draw of famly ties are too much for some and if they go back to the Watchtower's trash they get their family ties again.
It's not worth it to me, though because I accept my family the way they are even if they call me nasty names because I don't believe anything those 7 old bastards up in NYC dream up on the 6th floor of bethell anymore.
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Top Ten Scriptures Not Highlighted at the Meetings
by Perry inbut we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags;... is.
64:6. in whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins ... eph.
1:7. him god raised up on the third day, and showed him openly, ... he commanded us to preach to the people, and to testify that it is he who was ordained by god to be judge of the living and the dead.
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Those scriptures are too much of a theological nightmare for the 'faithless and disturbed slave' to highlight or even barely mention in their religious comic books.
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'She wasn't a Jehovah's Witness anyway...'
by NAVYTOWN inyears ago, when i was studying with the witnesses, my bible studty conductor's sister in ohio died.
of cancer as i recall.
so he flew back to ohio ( from san diego ) to be with his family .
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Sure, we have.
Soon, God is going to murder every evil person who rejects the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witness AKA the 'faithful and discreet slave' so why should Jehovah's Witnesses feel emathy for any nonJW who dies, either from natural causes, disasters or as a victim of crime.
They all worship satan if they aren't Jehovah's Witnesses so f&%k 'em.
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Ransom is not Bible's main teaching: GB
by pixel infrom the gb's new book: god's kingdom rules, chapter 4:.
"faithful early bible students viewed the ransom arrangement as the bible's main teaching" paragraph 9.. .
"the bible students understood that the primary issue was, not personal salvation, but the sanctifying of god's name.
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Total BS without any scriptural support but the cult is still able to retain over 30% who grew up believing that trash.
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More JW bragging about the Landover, MD. convention. Please have barf bag at the ready before reading
by AndDontCallMeShirley inthe following e-mail is circulating among jws about the international convention at fedex stadium in landover, md.
note the all-too-familiar jw claims: everything they do (including the simple act of parking cars) is proof of jehovah'stm blessing, and everything wt did at the convention was the fastest, greatest, best ever.
oh, and the never-fails-to-get-mentioned alleged 'persecution'/resistance from some unnamed authority who tried to get in watchtower's way and hamper the effort...but jws prevailed anyway (as always):.
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ROFL
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Tamar was not a harlot, so Judah did not commit fornication
by opusdei1972 inthis is a portion of what the insight book says about the affair between judah and tamar:.
therefore, subsequent to judahs becoming a widower, tamar, on learning that her father-in-law was going to timnah, disguised herself as a prostitute and then seated herself at the entrance of enaim on the road judah would be traversing.
not recognizing his daughter-in-law and assuming her to be a prostitute, judah had relations with her.
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Typical cult bullchit.
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Can anyone disprove 607 BCE date using only the NWT and WT literature?
by Bart Belteshassur ini haven't come across any arguement that does not involve secular history and external references.
in fact the wt can not get to 607 bce without using external sources as in knowing that they need to get back from 1914 ce to 607 bce, and botching an argument using an external date as reference to create their start point at 537 bce.. i realize that to get the final date we must provide a fixed figure from somewhere which can only be a historical source, but the objective would be to disprove the wt flim flam.
once that is achieve we can use which ever fixed historical point they wish to chose.
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Honesty
All you need is Volume 2 of the INSIGHT on the SCRIPTURES, the January 1, 1965 Watchtower magazine page 29 and 2 Kings 25:8 to prove that Jerusalem DID NOT fall in 607 B.C.
I posted the names of the rulers in the order that they appeared in the January 1, 1965 Watchtower magazine.
I took the material presented in the Watchtower magazine and in 2 Kings 25:8 and DID the math.
I did not use any other source to calculate the years that the Babylonian kings ruled.
All anyone with a calculator and enough sense to read and understand that a ruler such as Evil-merodach who reigned for 2 years and was murdered, understands that the murder occurred in his 3rd year of reign.
The same holds true for the other rulers listed in the January 1, 1965 Watchtower magazine...
Neriglissar reigned for four years and died in the 5th year of his reign.
Labashi-Marduk was assassinated during the 1st year of his reign.
Nabonidus was in the 18th year of his reign when Babylon fell in 539 B.C. according to the Watchtower's INSIGHT on the SCRIPTURES book and the January 1, 1965 Watchtower magazine....
*** INSIGHT on the SCRIPTURES ***
Volume 2
Page 457
*** Nabonidus ***
Last supreme monarch of the Babylonian Empire; father of Belshazzar. On the basis of cuneiform texts he is believed to have ruled some 17 years (556-539 B.C.E.). He was given to literature, art, and religion.
In his own inscriptions Nabonidus claims to be of noble descent. A tablet found near ancient Haran gives evidence that Nabonidus’ mother or grandmother was a devotee of the moon-god Sin. (Ancient Near Eastern Texts, edited by J. Pritchard, 1974, pp. 311, 312) As king, Nabonidus showed great devotion to the worship of the moon-god, both at Haran and at Ur, where this god occupied a dominant position.—PICTURE, Vol. 2, p. 324.
Cuneiform tablets of the eighth year of Nebuchadnezzar (Nisan 617-Nisan 616 B.C.E.) list a certain Nabu-na’id as the one "who is over the city," and some historians believe this is the same Nabonidus who later became king. However, this would mean that Nabonidus was a very young man when placed in such administrative position and would make him extremely aged at the fall of Babylon, some 77 years later (539 B.C.E.).
Nebuchadnezzar entered Jerusalem in the 19th year of his reign according to 2 Kings 25:8...
(2 Kings 25:8) . . .
And in the fifth month on the seventh [day] of the month, that is to say, the nineteenth year of King Neb·u·chad·nez´zar the king of Babylon, Neb·u´zar·ad´an the chief of the bodyguard, the servant of the king of Babylon, came to Jerusalem.
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The Watchtower Society agrees that Babylon fell in 539 B.C. according to Volume 2 on Page 457 in the INSIGHT on the SCRIPTURES under the heading of Nabonidus [the information is quoted above].
IT DOESN'T TAKE A DEGREE IN ROCKET SCIENCE TO START AT 539 B.C. and ADD the years up to arrive at the date of 585/586 INSTEAD of 607 B.C.
*** w65 1/1 p. 29 The Rejoicing of the Wicked Is Short-lived ***
Evil-merodach reigned two years and was murdered by his brother-in-law Neriglissar, who reigned for four years, which time he spent mainly in building operations. His underage son Labashi-Marduk, a vicious boy, succeeded him, and was assassinated within nine months. Nabonidus, who had served as governor of Babylon and who had been Nebuchadnezzar’s favorite son-in-law, took the throne and had a fairly glorious reign until Babylon fell in 539 B.C.E.
2 Kings 25:8
On the seventh day of the fifth month, which was the nineteenth year of King Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, Nebuzaradan, the commander of the guards, a servant of the king of Babylon, entered Jerusalem.
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I invite every reader to DO THE MATH and iF they find any ERRORS in the math to bring it to my attention.