The question I keep wondering is what has been the raison d'etre? Is there a fundamental difference in them and any other religion?
Posts by freyd
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45The End of Jehovah`s Witness`s
by OUTLAW inwe see alot of topics on the board about the end of the wbt$..i don`t think that will happen in our lifetime........so..lets change our focus..kingdom halls are getting fewer and fewer jw`s in them..congregations are being dissolved and kingdom halls are sold off..many jw`s are very unhappy and we see alot of them on this board.....the wbt$ is a billion dollar organization,they will survive for along time to come..........how about the jehovah`s witness`s?.......with fewer and fewer members..information about the wbt$ on the internet..and..some very depressed jehovah`s witness`s looking for a way out of the cult they are in.....will the "jehovah`s witness`s" survive?...outlaw
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How the Jehovah's Witnesses Become Robots, Kill Real Human Emotions
by flipper inthink about any cult you can name where the members have been told to follow leaders no matter what is told to them.
think of the late 60's with the charles manson family, how he seduced those young women into thinking he was jesus christ, and they followed him like sheep to the slaughter.
unfortunately for sharon tate, that's what it became.
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freyd
There was an experiment I heard about once involving psychology students who were to be part of a fake experiment involving electro-shock therapy. The patients were actors and the students were to be in control of what they thought was real electric current. They were told that the patient/actors were horribly ill and that strong electro-therapy was their only hope and that it may seem somewhat gruesome but no matter what they witnessed they were to give increasing amounts of current when the doctor ordered it. The electrical device was clearly marked with markings such as low, medium, dangerous, lethal. All students eventually administered the lethal amounts as per instructed. They became robotic. Seems jw's are no different in their shunning practices.
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Guys: How do you show your interest?
by serendipity inguys, when you are trying to woo a woman, in the early days before you get physically intimate, how do you show your interest in her?
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freyd
I just said, "You're the most beautiful woman I've ever met in my life." It worked once, I'd be afraid to try it again.
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WTBTS Now hinting at having LARGE families?????
by annalice inok so i don't know if this means anything but, i was just over on the watchtower official web site.
( i like to keep up on the crap they write).
anyhow there is a article titled "large families united in god's service".
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freyd
WHEN PASTOR RUSSELL DIED p 7-12 "So this suddenly obscure doctrine came to the fore, and as the new 'flashes of light' increased in brilliance, the brethren were told that more and more were going into second death.......To leave this channel was looked at as the blackest of all sins.....to be considered part of the man of sin.........This popular trend of so-called 'increasing light' continued until it was discovered that so many were going into second death that there wouldn't be enough people left of those who had lived and died to fill the earth........The Scriptures of course do not teach any any such absurd notion....something had to be done...So the next 'flash of light' revealed that those who accept these teachings and work hard to promulgate them, will live through the 'time of trouble,' get married and have large families......the advancement of this fantastic theory of 'filling the earth' seemed like a logical thing to do. Like every other false doctrine, it was 'proved' a.....'cunningly devised fable'........As in Babylon, fear took the place of love and became the driving power behind all their activities; and fear was implemented with the fear of second death to all who dared question the 'new light'......The theme song of restitution for the condemned race no longer stirred their hearts." Sounds like they might be dusting off one from their old play-book.
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Sad Sept KM QB part tonight. They have a plan. Sad.
by oompa inthe question does say it is witnesses getting these study groups up.
one scripture you will not hear during the part is the one scripture jesus himself spoke of small groups getting together, this one:.
matt 18:20 "for where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.".
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freyd
3rd Babylon----"For many have lost husbands, wives, children, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, and dear friends over their oppression,"----- "In this century the polity of the Church was quietly organized. There was an organized fellowship among the members; bishops had become influential, not in society, but among the Christians; dioceses and parishes were established; there was a distinction between city and rural bishops; delegates of churches assembled to discuss points of faith or suppress nascent heresies; the diocesan system was developed, and ecclesiastical centralization commenced; deacons began to be reckoned among the higher clergy; the weapons of excommunication were forged; missionary efforts were carried on; the festivals of the church were created; Gnosticism was embraced by many leading minds; catechetical schools taught the faith systematically; the formulas of baptism and the sacraments became of great importance; and monachism became popular. The[False] Church was thus laying the foundation of its future polity and power." VOL II p285 http://www.bibletoday.com/V2/volumetwo_S09.htm
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What unapproved song did you like/sing while a dub?
by What-A-Coincidence inwac used to sing this one while in service.. .
sisqo - thong song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op3bzzlgblo.
wac (former bethelite for 10 years and elder).
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freyd
Oh We dig rock singers We've got golden fingers And they love us where we go We Sing about beauty and We Sing about truth at $10,000 a show. We take all kinds of pills that give us all kinds of thrills, but the thrill we've never known, is the thrill that'll getcha when you get your picture on the cover of the rolling stone. Chorus: Rolling Stone, gonna see my picture on the cover Going to buy 5 copies for my mother, Gonna see my smiling face on the cover of the Rolling Stone.
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freyd
1914 - Two Bullets - WWI & WWII. 911 - Two Planes - Iraq & Afghanistan
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Armish vs. JW
by Princess Daisy Boo ini watched an episode of greys anatomy last night, which featured a 23 year old girl, who had come from an armish family, and was dying of cancer.
she and a friend had left home at 16 and now that she was dying she wanted to go home to her family.
she could still talk to her family because she had not been baptised and therefore not shunned and her friend was shunned because she left after she was baptised.. now, as a non american, i don't know a whole lot about the armish, except what i have seen on movies and tv, but the similarity between the jws and the armish or puritans struck me last night.
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freyd
Amish no mustaches allowed - jw's no beards
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You know you're going to get old - do you take better care of yourself?
by truthseeker inthe wt has pulled the carpet from under the dubs feet again and again concerning the nearness of armageddon.
now that you know you're getting older, do you look after your health more?
do you try to stay looking young?
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freyd
From Dr Atkins: "........meat, fish and fowl isn't a hardship......people ate much the same way in the 19th century. They were beef and pork eaters and their use of butter and eggs was unrestricted. In fact the two most widely used fats of all were lard and beef tallow.....In the crucial period between 1910-1970 when coronary heart disease escalated to become the killer of more than half he population, the intake of animal fat and butter dropped. Meanwhile the intake of refined carbohydrates(mainly sugar, corn syrup and white flour) escalated 60%......Even before the onset of agriculture, the human animal was able for millenniums to remain strong and healty in conditions of often savage deprivation by eating the fish and animals that scampered and swam around him, and the fruits and vegetables and berries that grew nearby.....without medicine, expertise, and insulated housing....Two hundred years ago the average person ate less than 10 lbs of sugar a year. About 110 years ago the lid blew off the sugar canister. In the 1890's the craze for cola beverages swept the nation - which means when we got thirsty and craved water, we got sugar as well......The net result was that sugar intake, which had averaged 12 lbs/yr in 1828 was nearly 10 times that in 1928...That was bad enough. But what's worse, once refined flour met up with sweetness and saltiness, the junk food business was off and running......The latest Dept of Agriculture statistics show that the average American consumed 124 lbs of caloric sweeteners in 1975, principally refined sugar and high fructose corn syrup . By 1999 it had risen to 158 lbs. The whole problem of sugar was compounded by the low fat messages we were bombarded with during the 1980's-90's. To make low fat products taste good, the manufactures add lots of sugar. It's not real food, it's fake food, along with plenty of other chemical additives. If you want to be slim and vigorous, you can't eat as I've described. Nor do you have to eat like a rabbit. You can enjoy fish, lamb, steak and lobster, nuts berries, cheese eggs and butter along with a wonderful variety of salad greens and other vegetables. Once you've reached your goal weight, you can eat larger helpings of healthy carbohydrate foods. When I speak of negative carbohydrates I refer primarily to refined flour, milk and white rice. Excessive carbohydrate intake results in high amounts of blood sugar that may over stimulate insulin production. The body attempts to adjust by liberating counter-regulating hormones like adrenalin...but another stiff dose can overpower the effect of these hormones. For some the bodily insult of massive insulin release to deal with massive blood-glucose levels has been going on for years, causing the glucose-regulating mechanism in the body to break down, initiating unstable blood sugar and eventually diabetes. Protein in excess converts to glucose in the liver and requires some insulin to transport it to the cells; fat requires essentially none. And what happens when there's too much insulin? The cells become desensitized to the action of insulin so that it can no longer effectively transport glucose to them. This is known as insulin resistance. At this point, your body's hormonal system is in desperate straits. Insulin is being secreted more and more and doing it's job less and less effectively, you crave sweets and carbs, and the liver converts more and more glucose to stored fat. Am I advocating a high fat diet? Not in the long run. As you progress , the actual amount of fat you consume will diminish. But as long as you're at the lower end of carbohydrate consumption, higher fat consumption poses no threat. Your body is simply converted from a sugar consuming mechanism to one that relies on fat for energy. Look at the Frenchman. Only a few decades ago, the Frenchman with his butter-cheese and goose-liver pate diet had a heart disease fate 60% lower than his American counterpart. The French woman did even better. The French also had far lower rates of obesity despite the fact that their diet was higher in fat! They ate comparable amounts of meat and fish, but 4 times the amount of butter and 2 times the amount of cheese. What does it all mean? Could it by any chance have anything to do with the fact that the per captia consumption of sugar in the US was 5 times higher than that of France?" Body's a machine, It needs grease.
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Will the Book Study ever be dropped from the weekly meetings?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe book study is one of the most useless meetings.
the same books have been studied 3 or 4 times.the meeting takes only an hour but takes up most of your evening.
and, it is one of the least attended meetings.. why haven't they combined the watchtower study with just question and answer and then follow with the book study with just question and answer?
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freyd
I wouldn't be surprised if they came up with "book study uniforms." Anybody hoping for any kind of improvement, just forget it and look to all the improvements in the Cathoholic church over the years. They will not give up their power voluntarily. The whole thing has to go down before the Kingdom can be established.