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  Talked to a friend of mine...

  by ithinkisee in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  over the last week i have been telling a longtime friend of mine from my hometown about what i found.

  we were best friends all growing up and he had some real bad physical abuse probs in his house and so when he graduated he left the truth and has just recently started coming back.

  he?s been studying off and on.

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  truth_about_the_truth

  To get a good perspective on why there is no need for an organzation to act as a keeper of the truth I recommend the following book:

  The Catholic Church - A Short History....By Hans Kung

  Hans Kung is basically a catholic Ray Franz (He is even mentioned in COC towards the beginning). He held a high position in the church and had his own crisis of conscience which led to the writing of this book.

  You will note some incredible parallels with the WT. Basically, the catholic church went through the same thing the WT is going through now. History repeats itself.

  Oh..don't forget to count 3 hours service time for your phone call! hahaha.
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  "Babylon the Great", who is she?

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the book of revelation, talking about things to come, babylone the great is to be destroyed, in one hour.. .

  some think that babylon the great symbolizes america, while others like the jw's say it's the false relgions that will be destroyed by the un.... .

  who do you think babylon the great represents?.

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  truth_about_the_truth

  I've actually been thinking about this recently.

  Without doing any cross referencing of other scriptures, trying to find other context where the word "harlot" is used in the Bible....

  Without trying too hard to interpret this using the original Hebrew, Greek terminology...

  Just purely reading Rev. 18, keeping it simple...

  All of the attributes and traits that she displays sure sounds like the U.S. to me. Especially with the fact that babylon and the U.S. were/are both world powers during their era and the social, cultural, financial influence they have/had over the rest of the world.

  I strongly felt this the last time I read this scripture after doing away with the WT filters

  Just my opinion though
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  Why no Crisis of Conscience eBook pdf version?

  by truth_about_the_truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there has to be a lot of fading or questioning jw out there that want to read this book but are afraid of getting the hard copy because of fears of getting caught, mailing issues, etc.

  i think if this were available as an ebook, so many more ppl would be able to read it.

  it would make it so much easier for those who want to take a look at this discreetly and take the leap.

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  truth_about_the_truth

  This piece of work is too important to have it stopped being printed/distributed. We cant let that happen.

  Does anyone knows what happens legally to intellectual property once a book is no longer in print and the author has passed away? Does it become the ownership of the public domain and free to distribute?
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  Why no Crisis of Conscience eBook pdf version?

  by truth_about_the_truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there has to be a lot of fading or questioning jw out there that want to read this book but are afraid of getting the hard copy because of fears of getting caught, mailing issues, etc.

  i think if this were available as an ebook, so many more ppl would be able to read it.

  it would make it so much easier for those who want to take a look at this discreetly and take the leap.

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  truth_about_the_truth

  The pdf would be for the benefit of those currently sitting on the fence. It appears that those types of JW are growing with each passing day (I'm sure the JWD can take some credit for this as well). Even though anyone is free to purchase it in book form, many are reluctant to actively do something like that. It's a lot easier to right click and do a "Save target as..." on your PC. It's the convenience factor

  Those of us who have read the book already know, once you start reading you cant stop.
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  Why no Crisis of Conscience eBook pdf version?

  by truth_about_the_truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there has to be a lot of fading or questioning jw out there that want to read this book but are afraid of getting the hard copy because of fears of getting caught, mailing issues, etc.

  i think if this were available as an ebook, so many more ppl would be able to read it.

  it would make it so much easier for those who want to take a look at this discreetly and take the leap.

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  truth_about_the_truth

  Since he doesn't make a profit anyways, I'm sure he wouldn't mind a free pdf version distributed via the internet. In fact, he may even encourage it.
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  Why no Crisis of Conscience eBook pdf version?

  by truth_about_the_truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there has to be a lot of fading or questioning jw out there that want to read this book but are afraid of getting the hard copy because of fears of getting caught, mailing issues, etc.

  i think if this were available as an ebook, so many more ppl would be able to read it.

  it would make it so much easier for those who want to take a look at this discreetly and take the leap.

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  truth_about_the_truth

  If someone has the patience to scan every page, it can be done. However, I'm not sure of the legal ramifications. I think the best route would be to contact Franz himself and suggest it to him. Does anyone here know him personally? Maybe it's worth a shot to suggest this to him?

  we all know the minute one person pays to download an 'e' version, 20 more or 100 get it free, from being passed on to them..

  Absolutely! Mind freeing information is a good thing!

  I think the simple act of getting this to pdf format would be HUGE in accelerating the exposure of the WTS.

  I'm sure something of a financial nature can be worked out for our dear Br. Franz to compensate for any monetary losses, if any at all.

  Besides, I'm sure his main motive for writing this book was to tell the truth to as many ppl as possible and any $$ resulting from this was considered a bonus.
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  Why no Crisis of Conscience eBook pdf version?

  by truth_about_the_truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there has to be a lot of fading or questioning jw out there that want to read this book but are afraid of getting the hard copy because of fears of getting caught, mailing issues, etc.

  i think if this were available as an ebook, so many more ppl would be able to read it.

  it would make it so much easier for those who want to take a look at this discreetly and take the leap.

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  truth_about_the_truth

  If profits are what's keeping him from doing it, how about using the voluntary donation arrangement? The exposure will be much greater and he may even receive more financial support than right now? I feel that it's such a powerful piece of work and it appears that more and more ppl in the org secretly want to look into it but are afraid of getting caught and snitched on.
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  Why no Crisis of Conscience eBook pdf version?

  by truth_about_the_truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there has to be a lot of fading or questioning jw out there that want to read this book but are afraid of getting the hard copy because of fears of getting caught, mailing issues, etc.

  i think if this were available as an ebook, so many more ppl would be able to read it.

  it would make it so much easier for those who want to take a look at this discreetly and take the leap.

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  truth_about_the_truth

  There has to be a lot of fading or questioning JW out there that want to read this book but are afraid of getting the hard copy because of fears of getting caught, mailing issues, etc.

  I think if this were available as an eBook, so many more ppl would be able to read it. It would make it so much easier for those who want to take a look at this discreetly and take the leap. As far as I know, there isn't one available. Don't you think it would be a good idea for Ray Franz to get this out in pdf format?
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  Latest "talk" by GB member being emailed around

  by catchthis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not sure if this is a "made up" email or not -- sounds like any other talk you've ever heard..... .

  >a talk recently given by brother guy pierce ... .

  >safeguard your spirituality by training your perceptive powers .

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  truth_about_the_truth

  >3. Do we spend pioneer time in front of the TV or computer, and token time in service? Psalms 119:37, "Make my eyes pass on from seeing what is worthless."

  My definition of worthless may be different from yours Mr. Pierce
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  What the Bleep do we know? Movie a must see!!!!

  by Balsam in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  what a thought provoking movie.

  we just got in in the mail yesterday and it was released yesterday.

  why are we here, what is reality, what is god?

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  truth_about_the_truth

  I saw it in the theatres last fall. Very outside-the box type of movie. I really enjoyed it. Very thought provoking. I look at the world differently ever since watching it. I give it my thumbs up!