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  Letter from a dear friend and elder.

  by AK - Jeff in

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  i had sent dale a copy of my da letter, and a personal one.

  i showed only kindness, though disgust with the organizations' moral bankruptcy and doctrinal miscues.

  yet the robotic mind sees all things in a twisted light of god/organization.

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  Jeff, One thing is right. A deadly mistake has been made, only not by you. In fact it's been made well over 6 Million times and that mistake is believing that Salvation can come through association with an orginazation. The JW's need to spend more time in the WORD and less time in their own publications that are constantly changing. It's only by reading the Bible that one can get to the real truth. Maybe, something will happen to him that will wake him up to that fact. seek2find
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  What scriptures will you NEVER hear a Witness use?

  by gordon d in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what scripture will probably never be read in the kh or quoted in the watchtower?

  for obvious reasons!

  i'll start with honesty's contribution: .

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  Eph 2:8-10 (NIV) "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do." I never heard this one quoted from the platform at the hall. The NWT words it all wrong in my oppinion seek2find
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  A Video Shunning Xperience....

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my g-daughter and i were in the video store this morning.

  [she was out of school with a cough and fever - they won't let her back for 24 hours].. as we prepared to check out in comes sister rita righteous.

  actually i jest here - rita has been df'd three times as a fornicatrix, married out of the 'truth' to a drug dealer, has raised three children who never accepted the religion, and has never, in my 35 years of her acquaintance been 'spiritually minded' or 'active in the service'.. anyway - i am freshly announced as 'no longer one of jehovah's witnesses', and apparently she has heard.

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  Hey Jeff, I wonder why the NM37 tract that's receiving such wide distrubution right now doesn't mention the way she treated you? It talks about all the love (that doesn't exist)but doesn't dare mention the shunning. The householder isn't suppose to find out about that until they have dedicated their life to the ORG. Kinda like bait and switch huh? I don't see any difference between JWs today and the Pharasiees of Jesus Day . Same song different verse. seek2find
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  If You Don't Believe In Jehovah's Organization You Can't Believe In Jehovah

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so said my brother to my mother the other day while she was in the hospital.

  he asked her why i wasn't coming back to the "truth".

  she suggested that i wanted to enjoy a worldly life of fun.

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  That may very well have been the reasoning of the Pharisees in Jesus day, the Orginazation was corrupt then and it is now. seek2find
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  The Best One-liners for Witnesses

  by gordon d in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what have been the most effective reasons that you've given to the people that you love for why you're no longer a witness?

  considering that most dubs have the attention span of a 2 year old for anything from an a-prostate, please be consise and succint with your answers.

  just trying to plant some seeds of reasoning.... maybe in-depth discussions with those folks will come at a later time.

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  I've used this one a few times and I'm sure I'll be using it again. It's simple. Jesus said at John 14:6 that he is "the Way the truth, and the Life" The Watchtower Society says they are the way the truth and the life.(That is in a nutshell the message of the KN37 tract). Which way is it? Do we want to follow Jesus as our Lord and Savior, or a man made orginization? seek2find
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  What is your favorite Bible Translation?

  by Lo-ru-hamah in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  do you have a favorite translation?

  king james, niv, or others that i might not of heard of that are perhaps more poetically written.

  or a style/version that you particularly like?.

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  I'm reading throught th NIV right now, but I'm not sure at this time which will be my favorite, I'm comparing many others also, however I am seeing the many flaws in the New World Translation. I don't see how it can be said to be accurate, when the meaning has been changed in so many places to fit the Witnesses beleifs. A person could actualy form different beliefs than what the Watchtower teaches strictly by reading a different translation of the Bible other than the NWT. seek2find
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  I wonder why????

  by seek2find in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  why does the soceity have the kn37 message available in sign language on there web site but not a print version, can't people that don't hear still read?

  and if the message is so important shouldn't it be the main topic there?

  i don't get it.

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  On the way. I have'nt turned in time for over 6 months and no one has ask why. No one cares I guess. seek2find
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  IS/ WAS YOUR CONGREGATION LIKE MY CURRENT ONE?

  by enlightenedcynic in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the congregation i currently attend with my die-hard witness wife and my two kids, the p.o.

  is a lame duck elder whom no one really respects or goes to for any counsel, advice, etc.

  another elder(lives at bethel) has taken to flirting with a local sister who is seperated but not divorced from her husband.

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  I concur with the thoughts of a youth group. I keep hearing about all this "concern about our youths", but nothing is being done except telling them "more service more meetings more personal study". How about group studies just for the young ones? Where they can honestly share their feelings with one another? seef2find
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  JW's and the Approved spiritual music

  by gordon d in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know that no song other than one of those toe-tappin' hits that are fds approved will ever be sung at a kh but who here has found any (biblically accurate) up-lifting songs?.

  one of my most favorite is by casting crowns, entitled "who am i".

  here's the link, if you haven't heard it..... [url]http://witsgoeilh.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/castingcrownswhoami.mp3[/url].

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  Hey Gordon, I think you may mean Rich Mullins. His song "Sometimes by Step" was my first introduction to Christian Music, I felt like God had me hear that song one morning right after a prayer I had said. That was the most spiritual moment I ever had. I was even more impresed when I read his life story. He was killed in a wreck in the late 90's. What a loss. seek2find
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  JW's and the Approved spiritual music

  by gordon d in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know that no song other than one of those toe-tappin' hits that are fds approved will ever be sung at a kh but who here has found any (biblically accurate) up-lifting songs?.

  one of my most favorite is by casting crowns, entitled "who am i".

  here's the link, if you haven't heard it..... [url]http://witsgoeilh.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/castingcrownswhoami.mp3[/url].

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  Hey Gordon, Glad to see another Casting Crowns fan here. I also like the song "who am I". I went to Walmart last week and bought the cd/dvd of theirs called lifesong live, and I beleive that was the best 14 dollars I ever spent. The song and video to "does anybody here her" is great. seek2find