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A comment I heard tonight

by Generic Man in

tonight i heard one of the most cruel and twisted comments i've ever heard at the platform.

the topic was the apocalypse and whether or not children will be slaughtered.

through one side of his mouth, the po stated that the bible is not clear on the matter, while out the other side he pointed to all those old testament accounts where children were killed.

Schizm as I expected you are unable to prove your belief. You are unable to simply answer a question from someone who is sincere in checking to see if they have been misinformed. You are a waste of my time.

I wish you luck in trying to debate with these tacktics, but you will probably find you will attract more anger from people than followers.

Like most people who have left JW we have been burnt by your type of reasoning and don't wish to be subject to this any longer. I'm sorry I ever gave you a moment of my time.

Moanzy

PS. I will never answer anything posted by you again as I feel you are not seeking TRUTH.

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hello from Tikrit

by troucul in

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just dropping in when i got some free time.

busy day today.

spent some time in town today.

moanzy

Hi Troucul,

Wishing you safety in your mission and keeping us all safe in the West.

I have a cousin that was serving in Iraq. I think he flew helicopters. Maybe you might know him. (Travis Dixon).

Anyway good luck, good job and be SAFE.

Moanzy

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New to Board

by Harpy in

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i am somewhat new to board.

i am member of a few yahoo email groups, but this is my first attempt to chat with so many ex witnesses.

i have no idea where to being and would like a few pointers.. there is so much here...

moanzy

Welcome Harpy!! Hope you meet some good friends. Everyone is great here in supporting the EXIT.

Moanzy

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-10-05 WT Study (Marriage--March 1)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 4-10-05 wt study (march 1, 2005 issue)

review comments

will be in black and parentheses ().

moanzy

Thanks Blondie. Your watchtower studies ROCK compared to my DAD's

Moanzy

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I'm going to Bethel... Wanna Come?

by RichieRich in

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so my mother suprised me about a week ago by telling me we are going on a bus trip to bethel from april 13-17. for those of you who aren't used to this concept, american dubs seem to think that packing themselves on the bus with 60 other witnesses and driving for 4 days is somehow going to strengthen themselves spiritually.

well, i doubt that will work for me.

i was just wondering, is there anything i should look for/ be on the alert for?

moanzy

Don't forget to order that new Toilet Paper to install in the bathrooms.

Moazy

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A comment I heard tonight

by Generic Man in

tonight i heard one of the most cruel and twisted comments i've ever heard at the platform.

the topic was the apocalypse and whether or not children will be slaughtered.

through one side of his mouth, the po stated that the bible is not clear on the matter, while out the other side he pointed to all those old testament accounts where children were killed.

moanzy

Schizm,

Are you ever going to share the scriptures about Jesus encouraging dishonesty and commanding the use of spiritual warfare? I really do have an open mind and would like to know where I can find this information.

I do find the Hebrew scriptures are a very interesting read and do offer much information leading to the emerge of Jesus. I don't live my life through the Hebrew scriptures though and I do take Jesus message on how to live our lives, very seriously. It would really be appreciated if you would answer the questions asked. I believe you know enough about the bible that this should not be difficult for you.

I left the organization for many different reasons. The dishonesty they continue to hide for so many reasons(excuses) does not make it right. If you were dishonest like them they would disfellowship your ass before you got the chance to even give your reason. I

I'm not sure if you are JW or not. Sometimes you reason things out like a JW that is backed into a corner. Other times you seem to know enough about the workings of the organization that I would think you have something to do with it. In any case I do not want to fight with you, I just wonder how you can defend the organization that is clearly dishonest with you and so many other JW and you guys except some example from pre-christian times to show it's OK when it was never OK with JESUS.

In case you decide to reply to my Wonderment about your reason, could you PLEASE remember to answer the first question. I promise to look up any quoted scripture.

Moanzy

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A comment I heard tonight

by Generic Man in

tonight i heard one of the most cruel and twisted comments i've ever heard at the platform.

the topic was the apocalypse and whether or not children will be slaughtered.

through one side of his mouth, the po stated that the bible is not clear on the matter, while out the other side he pointed to all those old testament accounts where children were killed.

moanzy

Oh ya schizm. You forgot to show me those scriptures about Jesus' dishonesty. I'm still waiting as he is my Savior not the Watchtower.

Sorry to put you back on track. It would be nice to see your evidence of what you claim instead of TRYING to make people LOOK stupid. Lets say from now on you back up your supposed intelligence by something CREDIBLE.

Me, I am all ears. I figure if you have some truth perhaps you should spit it out with some facts instead of just claiming something and backing it up with insults.The FDS does that strategie endlessly and it just gets SOOOOOO tiresome. (yawn yawn).

Moanzy

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A comment I heard tonight

by Generic Man in

tonight i heard one of the most cruel and twisted comments i've ever heard at the platform.

the topic was the apocalypse and whether or not children will be slaughtered.

through one side of his mouth, the po stated that the bible is not clear on the matter, while out the other side he pointed to all those old testament accounts where children were killed.

moanzy

And our Almighty Schizm reveals.... watch out everyone that top secret war strategie is going to get you!!!! I'm so scared cause I just don't know what is going to happen. I can just imagine its going to ROCK this forum cause Schizm is has a righteous agenda to show all these bad apostates that they are mistaken.

Moanzy

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If there is a global catastrophe how will JW structure survive?

by Qcmbr in

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i presume the jws believe that the 'times of trouble' will be 7 years or something like that - during that time what provisions have the jw organisation made to stay up and running?

seems to me that if communications fail the local congs will be pretty much stiffed without their weekly magazine study.

does the jw org teach any form of physical preparedness or is it every publisher for themselves?.

moanzy

I was told by an elders wife that this is one of the reasons why regular meeting attendance was so important, so that if any kind of disaster or trouble the elders would be able to give us our instruction (eg. where the next meeting would be )

Moanzy

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A comment I heard tonight

by Generic Man in

tonight i heard one of the most cruel and twisted comments i've ever heard at the platform.

the topic was the apocalypse and whether or not children will be slaughtered.

through one side of his mouth, the po stated that the bible is not clear on the matter, while out the other side he pointed to all those old testament accounts where children were killed.

moanzy

Isn't that interesting!!!! Who exactly would you be talking about? I know Jesus never instructed his followers to do this. Jesus who was sent for all mankind not only to die for us, but show us how to act as christians and somehow the scriptures on his dishonesty allude me. Perhaps Jesus wasn't following instructions properly.

Also, I have seen the dishonesty and lieing of all sorts that go on in the congregations. I was taught as a child to lie to the elders about the physical abuse I suffered under my "elder" fathers hand as well as his son. My sister wasn't allowed to tell the elders about her sexual abuse by her witness uncle because apparently it would defame Jehovah's name. We as children were treated as pathetic and told we needed to be kinder to our wonderful parents who did nothing to make sure we were treated kindly or make sure we were safe. Jehovah's name will never be defamed. It is a manmade organization that should fear. The world in general know the crimes people do in the name of God. God knows that religion including JW are using his name to back up every wrong they do.

I'm sorry,but my God does not work with any organization that is dishonest and is the example of dishonesty(spiritual warfare) to all its members. My God does not welcome organizations that makes families disown their children because these children refused to live with abuse anymore. Obviously you have not had to live with being beaten every day of your life!!!! Obviously you have never had a knife pulled on you by a family member that is baptised and was male so you had to respect him. Obviously you have never been told you were a liar when you tried to get spiritual help from the supposedly sheppards that are suppose to protect you.

I am an honest person and I still read the bible and pray. I know that I don't have all the answers and I know that NO one else does either. I refuse to argue about doctrinal points when God is going to judge me on what kind of person I am while living on earth. Not whether I excepted the doctrine of "spiritual warfare". I care about other peoples welfare and living life the best I can. I spend my days trying to be the best mom I can, teaching them their opinion is worth just as much as yours or mine and I don't beat them. I hope to show them how to except different opinions without being opinionated. I also will teach them about CULTS and what indoctrination does to people. I will teach them that cults will instruct you that you should be willing to give up family for whatever that cult deems necessary. I will tell them that grama and papa couldn't love them because their cult teaches that mommy is bad and will be killed in armageddon and so will they. That they believe they are righteous and we aren't worth anything. That it is OK for their cult to lie and be intellectually dishonest with their people and it is OK as long as no one says anything about it.

Moanzy