Posts by LongHairGal

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Reddit thread about Bethel Reducing Headcount

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

apparently, the downsizing is still happening and from what i read those let go are over 50!.

sad because these people expected to be lifers.

now they have to make their way in the world at an advanced age with no education or desirable skill!..

LongHairGal

THOMAS MORE:

I am glad for you and others who left bethel on your own. You are lucky, along with those who never went there in the first place.

You say about some who were let-go that ‘they are hopeful the rank n file will carry them’,👎 Well, I take offense to this commonly held mistaken attitude.. My answer would be NO to anybody who came up to me with an envelope asking for money.

This is one reason I’m Glad I’m Out of this religion…The very idiots who hated me for working - would hate me for not giving money.

I was criticized/shunned for having a full time job back then. I would not be retired if I had listened to the religion and did the ‘approved’ housecleaning and pioneering.. So they don’t GET to come up to me asking for $$. Nope. It doesn’t work that way.. By the way, I make it a point to tell this to any older Witnesses I run into who knew me back when I was working and viewed negatively in the congregation!

It is the religion who owes these ex-bethelites. That’s who they were working for!

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Reddit thread about Bethel Reducing Headcount

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

apparently, the downsizing is still happening and from what i read those let go are over 50!.

sad because these people expected to be lifers.

now they have to make their way in the world at an advanced age with no education or desirable skill!..

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

Seriously. You and me both can be thankful that certain things never happened.

In your case, thankful you never applied to bethel (which was something encouraged). In my case, thankful I never pioneered!!! But, I DO think that somebody cloistered in bethel for decades and who gets kicked out at age 50 would have a worse time adjusting in general!

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Reddit thread about Bethel Reducing Headcount

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

apparently, the downsizing is still happening and from what i read those let go are over 50!.

sad because these people expected to be lifers.

now they have to make their way in the world at an advanced age with no education or desirable skill!..

LongHairGal

GORB:

I am ignorant about linking things but it’s on the first page about seven topics down and was made 9 hours ago: “Are they continuing to reduce the headcount at Bethel.”

DAGNEY:

Yes, it’s sickening. One of the posters who answered thinks the org is intending to liquidate the whole thing (which I am inclined to believe).. But, these older bethelites are being let go first. The prevailing opinion is because they are perceived to be a liability because of high health care costs the religion doesn’t want to deal with. But, I suppose if liquidation is the plan then eventually everyone will be let go.

There is even a horror story of a let-go bethelite who supposedly froze to death on a park bench nearby!😮 Don’t know when this happened and they managed to keep this quiet.. So, it seems these older bethelites are being handed their hats. Meanwhile, younger people are being brought in !!

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Reddit thread about Bethel Reducing Headcount

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

apparently, the downsizing is still happening and from what i read those let go are over 50!.

sad because these people expected to be lifers.

now they have to make their way in the world at an advanced age with no education or desirable skill!..

LongHairGal

Apparently, the downsizing is still happening and from what I read those let go are over 50!

Sad because these people expected to be lifers. Now they have to make their way in the world at an advanced age with no education or desirable skill!.. So horrible that they get a “We thank you for your service but we do not need you anymore..” They are told they need to pack and some staffer might agree to show them to their car (if they have one). Don’t know exactly how much time they are given… There doesn’t seem to be any severance pay. I’m not certain if they even get any $ for a bus or anything….The experiences in the posts are heartbreaking.

Anybody who was disappointed about not being accepted to Bethel when younger should thank their lucky stars that it never happened - or else it would be them starting over very late in life!

I’m sure no words can describe how these people must feel.

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Begging for accomodations

by road to nowhere in

jw
friends

local announcement has even pimis amused.

wanting rooms for some event or refugees-not clear.

private room with private bath.

LongHairGal

ROAD TO NOWHERE & HOSER:

How about begging for assets??

From what I am reading on the forum about the JWs it seems their nerviness is reaching new heights.

Here is a religion that knocks education, has contempt for responsible people with full time jobs - but yet is asking for people to give or lend things of this magnitude(?!) What about damage and liability and insurance coverage, etc.?

This is what happens when you have uneducated people living a cloistered life who have NO idea how the real world works and what it’s like to make a living - and then having the balls to ask working people for things!

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The Watchtower's Depiction of 'paradise'..

by Ron.W. in

perhaps we could post the pictures the wt have presented in their literature that depict their version of paradise here for comment/discussion:.

from: spirits of the dead—can they help you or harm you?

do they really exist?.

LongHairGal

RON W:

Wow, I never thought I would see these pictures again since I long ago trashed all of the Jehovah’s Witnesses literature and books I had!

Some of the pictures brought back memories of when I was in the religion and got ‘judged’ because I worked full-time (no regrets) and didn’t pioneer.. I did try to get some hours in but whatever I did was never enough - especially in the eyes of the hardliners there.

But, fast forward to now: I wonder how many JWs who were used as ‘models’ in some of these pictures are even in the religion anymore??

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What would happen to a JW for celebrating Christmas?

by Vanderhoven7 in

mark jones writes:.

if they were spied upon and it was reported to the elders they’d be “invited” to a judicial committee whereupon they’d be cross examined in a locked backroom by three men acting as judge and jury to decide if they are guilty.. .

if the elders decide that they are guilty, they’ll then decide if the person is sorry.

LongHairGal

VANDERHOVEN7:

Back when I was ‘in’, I got the impression that if a JW had an unbelieving spouse they couldn’t help it if the person put up a tree and decorations.

I assumed as long as the JW was low key about it and didn’t brag about relatives coming over, there was no problem.. However, if it was a JW alone who had visible decorations outside their house and the ‘friends’ drove by and saw this, somebody would say something to them.

The real key to stopping this problem is to END too much togetherness with Witnesses and telling them your business...You have to stop this crap.. There was a rather unfriendly elder in my hall years ago. I don’t believe he ever had anybody over his home. I’m sure he wasn’t celebrating Christmas but he didn’t want nosey troublemakers over. Very wise.

So, if you’re the type who has the JWs over - you WILL run into a problem at some point - not just about Christmas but OTHER things as well.. Even back then I didn’t really want Witnesses in my home and it was seldom.

I always loved Christmas and so very Glad I am enjoying it again!

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How the JWs Handle a Member Visiting Another Church: What Is Your Experience?

by LauraLynn in

i grew up a jw but my parents were not regularly attending services at a kh.

they used to, and were thoroughly indoctrinated though.

as is the jws habit of visiting non-attenders, 2 sisters came to my mom and dad's door one day to inquire of our well-being.

LongHairGal

LAURA LYNN:

Back when I was active in the Witness religion a few of us were talking after the Sunday meeting.

I had recently gone to Europe and toured many churches/cathedrals. I was talking about my trip and mentioned that I got to use the ladies room in one of them. So, an elderly sister standing nearby overheard and puts in her two cents and says I should not have gone in them ‘because what if Armageddon struck right then?’

I might have muttered something about it not bothering my conscience. Even when I was a ‘believer’ in the JW religion I felt that it wasn’t bad to view those old churches and I compared it to visiting a museum! Witnesses are so stupid and extreme in their views and I let it go in one ear and out the other.. From that point onwards I learned to keep my mouth shut and weigh my words around JWs.

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Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

by liam in

i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

LongHairGal

BLONDIE:

So sorry to hear about that family that did not get that child their polio vaccine!

We, as a generation in the West, have not been raised around the horrors that you mention that are prevalent in other places in the world today. These older vaccines were invented so that people would be spared the nightmare of these diseases and I am very grateful I got these vaccines.. I went to Catholic schools and I remember in grade school we had some vaccines given to the whole school in the auditorium. The nuns had us line up.. .I remember a polio shot on one occasion and also that sugar cube with the bitter pink serum on it another time.

Because practically every child back then was vaccinated - the diseases were ‘wiped out’ in a sense. That is why those few who weren’t vaccinated never contracted them. They were lucky everybody ELSE was vaccinated!!

When I was a young adult I needed another smallpox vaccine to travel somewhere. Now they don’t give it out except to the military.

So, I’m NO antivaxxer. I just don’t feel confident about the Covid shots.

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Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?

by liam in

i didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.

practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.

now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.

LongHairGal

BLONDIE:

I never got the Covid vaccine because I had a bad reaction to the shingles vaccine. I was afraid at that point.

Like you, I also had all the required childhood vaccinations. I do remember as you probably do, some older people walking around with leg braces because they had polio.

I think a large segment of younger people today might be vulnerable. The authorities stopped giving out some vaccines at some point thinking those diseases have been ‘wiped out’!