i was baptized in early 90s and live in eastern europe.. from your comments i noticed, that some time in the past jws had a problem with smurfs... like being afraid of or avoiding ... i never heard anything about that in my dub life... .
so is there some story behind that?
did you play with smurfs as kids?
I heard the Smurf story as a kid too, back in the early 80's. Toy Smurf gets up in the middle of a meeting, grumbles something about how he can't smurfing stand any more of this smurfing smurf, and walks out of the hall.
My parents thought the whole thing was ridiculous and never banned me from having toy smufs, even after an "anointed" sister wouldn't allow one of my Smurf colouring-in books into her house when we visited her family one time.
i was an elder many years and only sat in on one case of marital infedilty.
since there was a confession in this instance.
we didn't need to know anything about the "act" (and none of us really wanted to know).
They'd have everyone stoned to death for walking around naked underneath their clothes if they could.
i'm talking about our pets,.
-wild animals.
african gb member.
The WTS depicts Armageddon as a selective destruction of only wicked people.
Check out the picture on page 209 of "From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained" - there's a dog falling into the abyss along with all the sinners.
i always heard armageddon would be a spiritual battle.. some people seem to think it will be some natural disaster.. jws seem to think it will be the very hand of god throwing lightening bolts.. .
is armageddon the same as "day of jehovah"?.
is armageddon when apostates of all religions become loud enough to overthrow the liars?.
Well most of those things are meant to be caused directly by God in a controlled manner so as to kill specific people and protect others, so they wouldn't be natural disasters exactly.
i always heard armageddon would be a spiritual battle.. some people seem to think it will be some natural disaster.. jws seem to think it will be the very hand of god throwing lightening bolts.. .
is armageddon the same as "day of jehovah"?.
is armageddon when apostates of all religions become loud enough to overthrow the liars?.
Armageddon is usually depicted in the literature as taking all sorts of physical forms simultaneously. Floods, fire, meteorites, earthquakes, people rioting and killing each other, buildings toppling over, thunderbolts and lightning, very very frightening.
And they believe it will be selective. Those on the Prince of Peace's hit list will include all non-JWs, JWs who weren't quite zealous enough, and (if you believe an elder I once heard at a meeting) even good JWs who forgot to hand in their report that month.
there is some speculation that he did.. i think i read somewhere that adam's bones were used to divide the quarters between males and females.. were the animals segregated as well as the humans?.
i don't know.. any takers?.
There are various traditions that the bones of Adam and Eve are in the cave of Machpelah. For the remains to still be around, how could they NOT have been aboard the ark?
read dune's post 788/789.
if you can find wt article about the possibility of no gentials in "paradise", please post here.
thanks!.
Here's an audio clip of Charlie Russell himself (from the Photo-Drama of Creation) explaining that Adam was androgynous before Eve was taken from him, and that humanity will reattain that state once the earth has sufficient population:
http://rapidshare.com/files/203629470/CTR_-_Eve_Separated_From_Adam.mp3
http://www.codyenterprise.com/articles/2009/02/19/news/doc4987722b2d8b5588859832.txt.
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except....who benefits?
An Australian TV interviewer called Andrew Denton was once talking to bankrupt businessman whose name escapes me at the moment, and asked him about the private jet he gets around in despite supposedly having no money. The guy said "It's not my plane, it's the company's." Andrew replied "Does anyone ever say you can't use it?"
a poster from another board pointed out this wt quote below, credit to john653.
shouldn't jw's be counted in those who 'oppress' their fellowmen?
they certainly fit the description of oppressing their own people.
Their idea of what the 'good new's' is found where in the bible?
Well the bit about God's Kingdom getting rid of those who oppress their fellowman is basically the good news that Jesus taught. The kingdom of the heavens is at hand, blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth, and all that. Matthew 5.
But I don't know how the JW version of that is meant to comfort "all people", when their belief is that all those people (oppressors and oppressees alike) are going to be destroyed for not being JWs!
I'm not sure I'd accuse them of oppressing anyone but themselves, but on the other hand declaring everyone except themselves to be wicked and worldly doesn't sound very meek to me.
you will hear jws coming out with two things that are completely contradictory which they take to both prove the same thing.. 1. they have massive growth and that proves that jehovah is blessing the work they do.
2. they are not as large as the catholic church which proves that they are the 'narrow path' leading to salvation.
so, having a lot of followers and also not having a lot of followers are both proof that you are the one and true religion.. hmmn, ok ... but there is more.. think about what they believe regarding #1 above ... that growth is evidence that jehovah is blessing their work.. how does that work exactly?.
Good point about the "blessing" thing. Presumably there's going to be an awful lot of JWs destroyed at Armageddon on the grounds that they didn't really obey of their own free will but were brought in by God just to bless someone else.
