here is a serious question for you to contemplate and answer.. if, near the natural end of your present life you could receive a drug that induced within your brain a state of mind most closely resembling one long orgasmic "experience" (but, which would prove fatal within 24 hours) would you.........?.
1.refuse and accept whatever pain or misery naturally happened according to chance.. 2.accept and go out with a cosmic virtual "bang"?.
of course, tell us why you have chosen the way you have chosen.. part two.
How near to the end of your natural death?
It would have to be pretty freakin near for me to take the pill. Why? Because your life can change in a blink of an eye, and you never know what is around the corner. Something really amazing can happen in your life that makes living worthwhile. Also, I wouldn't want to miss a moment of time spent with my family.
it is a mistake for former jehovah's witnesses to think that just because they are shunned by friends and family, they are no longer loved.
isn't shunning a horrible experience, one borne from twisted psychological reasoning?
mandated shunning from a powerful and misguided religious organization is a great sin against both the person shunned and those who are obliged, yes obliged, to shun them.
Question for everyone- When we used to be jw's did we talk to disfellowshipped people?
The only reason we see how abusive df is, is because we are out of it. They do not even realize how cruel and grotesque it is for thinking that the whole world is going to be slaughtered when God comes back to earth!!!!! Their brain is not their own, no matter how much they think it is.
JW's only think of themselves on how df of their family member is going to affect them, but I secretly think they like being a martyr. Oh the sacrifices for Jehovah.......give me a break!....... more like sacrifices for a publishing company.
it is a mistake for former jehovah's witnesses to think that just because they are shunned by friends and family, they are no longer loved.
isn't shunning a horrible experience, one borne from twisted psychological reasoning?
mandated shunning from a powerful and misguided religious organization is a great sin against both the person shunned and those who are obliged, yes obliged, to shun them.
It reminds me of that saying you always here battered women say- "He loves me.... in his own way".=Someone can do wrong to someone else and still love them.Yup, sounds like the same reasoning to me... J
That's not what I meant, I was being sarcastic.- "He loves me... in his own way" ya right!
i was thinking about some of the crap i went through with the elders during one of the hardest times of my life.
i was seeking help from the elders and had told them that i had been sexually abused as a child.
i was very upset that my father-in-law, who was an elder and po, had abused so many children and yet the elders in his hall and at the wts did nothing about it.
Sorry to hear you went through such a horrible experience. I think the wts wants to keep this dirty little secret, that they are not as perfect as they say they are. They will smear the priest for doing the same thing that they are doing.
I think most jw's would be shocked to find out how common this is in their precious organization.
I have undergone some serious abuse as well. We would go to the elders showing them bruises and they said that we needed to be more obedient and my mom needed to be more submissive. I couldn't believe that they didn't help me. It was such a shock. After they left the house, my dad just got even more smug. The abuse continued to a greater degree AFTER we talked to the elders because then he thought he was in the right with GOD. I remember telling the elders that I was having flash backs of being raped at 4 years old. They told me that sometimes girls fascinate about their own fathers and that doesn't mean anything except that you need to pray to Jehovah for having unclean thoughts. Then they made it worse by showing me a scripture about girls in the bible that had sex with their dad. I felt violated all over again after talking to them. How could any girl WANT to have sex with her 40-something, fat, balding father. They are sick!!!!! Finally they believed me when I hid a tape recorder in the room and taped everything. He was disfellowshipped but never put in prison, no police were called.
I would like to say that you CAN overcome from abuse and sick treatment from those that were once in power of our lives. It takes alot of effort and pampering- time for yourself is well deserved. Now.... I treat my body with the respect it should have been given all along and I love myself for being strong enough to pull through it.
I wonder how those elders would cope if they had to go through what we did. Shame on them. But they are already getting their earthly punishment- having their every move controlled by other abusive men!
Hugs and Love- Stand Tall!
guys and gals try this one on....i just found out that our local congertion...sold the old hall...with all its acrege...to the local catholic church to become a school.for preist.....i had thought the wtbs was to have no dealings with babylon the great....donald
Of course, if some in the congregation are bothered in conscience because of such buying or selling, then this can be taken into consideration so as not to stumble anyone.
Ya right. Even if they held a vote in the congregation, no one would dare to raise their hand.
Is it ok to buy a church for the kh to hold services there?
If not, then why are they using "Babylon the Great's" money to make a profit on their property. Double standard.
I guess whatever is convenient at the moment.
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this was pretty fun.
http://www.philosophersnet.com/games/god.htm it said that the chance of my god being real was 0.7 what did you get?
OK evil force just explained that biting a bullet simply means that I'm strange, I guess I already knew that.
Don't feel bad for being strange... I'm a nerd.... but only at heart.
hopelessly stained,.
i saw you posted once and ran for the hills by deleting what you wrote ... its okay, we try to keep the ones that bite in their cages.
if you aren't ready to talk yet, please know you will be welcome and heard when you are ready, so long as you remain cognizant that those you post to are real people.
The name is hilarious.......but we'll except you stained or unstained. No matter. Love
i asked this question as part of another thread but i thought i would ask it in a new thread.
if there were some way to assure that your death would result in your family and friends learning the truth about the wts would you be willing to die to 'save' them?
No
If my own children were even thinking of getting into this religious cult, then yes.
My family now is all that matters to me. The family I was raised with, has made it very clear to me that I am their enemy. Put it this way.......... I would never turn my back on them.
it is a mistake for former jehovah's witnesses to think that just because they are shunned by friends and family, they are no longer loved.
isn't shunning a horrible experience, one borne from twisted psychological reasoning?
mandated shunning from a powerful and misguided religious organization is a great sin against both the person shunned and those who are obliged, yes obliged, to shun them.
I think the WTS are the ones that shun, and the jw's follow their orders.
Because to them it means life and death to follow the orders of Jehovah WT. They feel that they are going to be punished by their creator if they talk to a disfellowshipped person. That fear is so strong that they will give up family and friends to save their own "after life". I think the ones that really "love" you are torn on what to do because they don't want to displease the ALMIGHTY GOD WT.
It reminds me of that saying you always here battered women say-
"He loves me.... in his own way".
that they were one of the "anointed" just for the hell of it?
i always wanted to do that and see what would happen!.
brooke
Brooke- Yes, I really wanted to BE one of the anointed, but mostly because I wanted to partake at the memorial. hehe
Seattle- I always thought I was some kind of freak because I would do "nerdy" things like that to embarrass myself. Still do. But after I knew what I actually said my face was probably all red. Good thing that guy didn't ask you any further questions about why you answered the phone saying "Jehovah". hahaha lol
