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  Torn over presidential candidates

  by Junction-Guy in

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  talk about my own crisis of conscience!!.

  im a republican, and have always voted for republican candidates for president, this upcoming election leaves me very little choice.

  this may be the first presidential election since 1996 that i wont vote, nor can i even get excited over.. .

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  tetrapod.sapien

  i don't see anything to be torn over here.

  vote for yourself man, and never forget it. babylon is never going to serve up any leaders that will lead you and your neighbors out of bondage.

  word.

  tetra
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  What if you became very rich?

  by Irish Rose in

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  my husband and i was talking about this the other day.

  what would happen if one became very very rich, and our jw relatives learned about it?

  what do you think they would be saying, or thinking?

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  tetrapod.sapien

  hi!

  What if you became very rich?

  i am very rich. JWs from my previous life just don't see it that way, is all.

  tetra
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  The governing body is "The Christ"

  by candidlynuts in

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  i keep reading small bits here and there where people mention the " follow the christ" convention states the governing body is now " the christ".

  can anyone clarify this or know which talk it is , have audio or video?

  any more information of any kind would be appreciated..

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  sick stuff man. sick.

  it's the DC in calgary this weekend. i hope the little puppies are all having a good time salivating over this new "spiritual food".

  tetra

  christ: the alchemical fusion possible between the individual personality, the world, and the All-One. The "anointed" state that links the self with the SELF.
  magdalene.wise1.com/terms.html
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  Is Atheism the Path to True Spirituality?

  by nvrgnbk in

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  tetrapod.sapien

  Is Atheism the Path to True Spirituality?

  no. it is on the path, but certainly not *the* path.

  it's like james said, you don't want to identify yourself with a label. or, in other words, let a label become you (who you think you are).

  and like i have said often enough, everyone is an atheist. this is not a defiant flame bait for theists. only a simple fact. if there is a god in the history of the human species that you do *not* believe in, then you are an atheist. simple. i am an atheist to YHVH, for example. but i prefer not to only define myself by what i have rejected, or now lack belief in. if you must define yourself, define yourself as you (what you embrace).

  once that little speed bump is passed, we are free to turn inward for divinity.

  tetra

  “There's no reality except the one contained within us. That's why so many people live an unreal life. They take images outside them for reality and never allow the world within them to assert itself.”

  - Herman Hesse
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  Generalized Apathy Towards Relgion- Humanity Is Waking Up?

  by nvrgnbk in

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  though many millions are still under the spell of ignorance-inducing belief-systems, have you personally noted people in your day-to-day to be less and less involved in religion?.

  that's been my experience.

  it gives me great hope about the future of humanity.

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  the west has done much in demystifying the ancient "mysteries". while i see this as a psychologically healthy stepping stone, i would never want to see the myths disappear. and that's because, contrary to what some anti-theists claim, myths often point to a liberation of mind. a potential in h sapiens. often that there is no difference between the gods and man. that, indeed, to find God, one would need to cease worshiping "him" as a literal/external entity, and turn inward with lucidity. to hold the metaphysical/spiritual mirror up to one's Self and find the truest divinity right there in & before him (her too!:).

  and yet, i see money as one religion that masses of people still worship with zeal. love of one's country (tribe) is another. people may not go to a traditional church anymore, but they're still lost in an unconscious world of form and things.

  however, there are many people, spiritual AND skeptical, who are waking up from religion. partly it involves understanding that religion is part of a larger frame of reference we call anthropology. this does not make science a religion, but like many of the old myths, shows that *all* is God, and we are part of all because we are related to all. and i don't mean "all people". i mean All. this knowledge begins to free a person (historically often only initiates to a practice, but now anyone who can read) to follow a genuinely personal (personified) spiritual path.

  it's been a long, beautifully painful road out of orthodoxy (and an even longer one out of our ape minds). i would also venture that, based on my experience of human spiritual/psychological potential, the journey is far from over.

  evolution -> peace -> sentience -> love -->

  tetragod
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  When Did You Start Feeling Uncomfortable In The “Truth?”

  by The wanderer in

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  out of the organization.

  my history as a jehovahs witness could easily be summed .

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  tetrapod.sapien

  comfortable?

  i never once felt comfortable.

  tetra
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  Latest jab at Evolution

  by karvel in

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  click for scans.. http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/525/pg1lr5.jpg.

  http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9400/pg2dc4.jpg.

  http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7531/pg3yr1.jpg.

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  the society has painted themselves into many doctrinal, factual and existential corners. but imho, evolution will be the hardest one for them to wiggle out of.

  i mean, the fact of evolution (as a general whole, if i may), is really only data. the philosophical implications of the data is what they are most afraid of, ultimately. and not even in terms of "God". not at all actually. but the fact that at the time they say adam and eve fell from sin there were actually many many many homo sapiens (hu-mans) all over the world. so, to begin with, the need for a savior is not required since, even if there were a YHWH-created "adam and eve", the chances of you or i being genetically related to them is pretty slim. therefore, if we are not related to them, sin does not apply to us (unless of course you invoke magic to explain how joe hoba inserted "sin" into all human genomes [since, as we know: genome ergo sum]). magic aside (), the WTS is f*cked.

  tetra
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  X MS, Elders, COs., and DOs.....your thoughts?

  by restrangled in

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  i wonder how it strikes you when you read of those facing or have faced one of your tribunals?.

  as x men in charge, how do you feel reading the pain and panic here?.

  r..

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  tetrapod.sapien

  in a foggy past life i was a MS.

  I wonder how it strikes you when you read of those facing or have faced one of your tribunals?

  gut wrenching, for sure. though, i should say, i see all jehovah's witnesses as victims. ALL. the most profane GB member to the most wronged child. it's the only way i can have any peace about it. i had to acept the victimhood of all involved in the tragic affair. all part of the larger dystopia of orthodox christianity ANYWAYS.

  As X Men in charge, how do you feel reading the pain and panic here?

  i feel for those in pain. but i am happy for them too. the fact that they are here on JWD, venting, saying and reading the things that are on here, is the germination of liberation from the tyranny. it's painful, but at least we are all out now, and helping others get out all the time. why do you think some are addicted to JWD? ~guilt~ (sad, but true, in my case too!)

  well, sorry, but no more fear or guilt for me. if i was an ambitious pioneer and "brought someone into the truth", then it was his fault for being a sucka. i mean, damn, i was a sucka too.

  tetra
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  ..A Thought about Jesus,for Christians..

  by OUTLAW in

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  ..in watchtowerland..the watchtower bible and tract society=mediator to god..if thats true..what good is jesus??

  ?..none!..he has absolutlely "no use!

  "..the wtb$ leads people to think they cannot find god without them!..where is jesus in all of this?

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  "christians" asserting that other christians are not really christian, is so typically christian. thanks alot Irenaeus! i hope the orthodox strains burn themselves into the ground.

  i mean, i am all for humanity spawning more Christs (Jesus of Nazareth was but one in a large group of people who have experienced "Christ Consciousness"). but all this: "my beliefs are more orthodox than yours, so i'm a xian and you're not!" - is BS.

  tetra
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  FROM EDEN TO EXILE

  by badboy in

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  has anyone read this book?.

  mentioned in national geographic magazine.he author examines 7 myseries incluing noah's ark and jericho's wall falling own..

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  tetrapod.sapien

  never read it. sounds interesting though. what did it say about da ark?

  tetra