It's stuff like that, that makes me think that most JWs don't even believe that. They kind of have a little kindling hope, but they don't like to think it through too much. They're witnesses because of what they'd lose in this life right now if they left. I think that's why the organisation has many many years left in it.
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This is why I don't want to be a JW
by TooBad TooSad intoday at the meeting an elder said the following: "we don't want to focus on.
the life that we have now, we have to focus on the life that we will have in the.
new order.
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This is why I don't want to be a JW
by TooBad TooSad intoday at the meeting an elder said the following: "we don't want to focus on.
the life that we have now, we have to focus on the life that we will have in the.
new order.
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sass_my_frass
But then, you can't really go focussing on the paradise. You can't talk about it for too long, because then people get speculative about how it's going to work - who grows big grain harvests? Who transports food? Who keeps the roads and and rail and bridges safe? Or if we all grow everything ourselves, will the climate be the same all over the planet so we all have the same variety of fruits, nuts and vegetables? How many of us even actually like gardening?
Do we get electricity, if so, who builds the plant and keeps it running, and who mines the stuff that builds the plant? Are we sticking with coal and nuclear? If we use solar, where do we get the materials from? What do we do with old batteries? Who controls the water supply? Do we keep building big dams? Do we get flush toilets or do we use latrines? Who cleans them? What with?
Do we wear clothes? Where do we get the materials? Do we have shoes?
If we have a big fall, do our bones break? If so do they heal instantly, or do we not have pain? If we can't feel pain, how do we know our hand that is leaning on the stove is being burned away?
Do we eat meat? What do carnivorous animals eat?
Do we have tv? Or radio? Or books? Scrolls? Who makes the paper? Who grows the fibre? How does it get to me?
Do the many millions of resurrected miscarried or aborted babies get transported to the uteruses of the few faithful sisters who didn't breed before armageddon or do those sisters get to raise children from their own gene supply? Or do we have big baby-growing fields? Who looks after all the other resurrected children - their parents, who have to live like angels so they can't marry? Which parent do they live with - Mum or Dad? What if both parents were so evil they don't get a resurrection - do they go to orphanages? Who runs those?
If my husband or wife remarries after I've died, and they're still raising the kids when I'm resurrected, how often will I get custody?
If I survived Armageddon with property in an old area, do I have to share it with every resurrected person who has lived there in the past so they can keep living their dream, or do they have to go and build a new dream somewhere else? Or does the first person who was ever there get to keep it and manage the rest of us? Do their children get a share of it? Do we have to rebuild the houses every few centuries when the materials fail or do we get magical new materials?
Will I be able to travel around the world? Who would feed me if I wanted to? Would it be worth it, or would everything be the same everywhere? Can I still ski? Who operates the lifts? Can I get my scuba tank refilled somewhere? What do I pay them with if I've been neglecting the vegetable patch because I'm having so much fun on paradise earth?
When we've filled the earth, will those who don't get to have children be okay with that? If we populate other planets, where will we get the resources to transport ourselves out there? Should maybe one or two of us do physics and engineering degrees so that we'll still have the knowledge to make it happen when all of the libraries on the planet have been swallowed up by Jesus' vengeance?
"Don't go speculating about what we don't know about paradise. You'll get a baby lion and two acres of land, just shut up and dream about it, pray a lot and get out in the damn field service and stop whining about how hard life is." That gets to me; the whole reason you're there is for the paradise payoff, but you can't talk about it because there are no answers, and the questions make you think that it might just be completely absurd. But it can't be absurd; you've been looking forward to life in paradise your whole life. Jehovah promised!
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Is it possible for a child to be exposed to JWism and not be damaged by it?
by Mickey mouse inwhat do you think?
were you raised as a jw and feel you suffered no ill effects?
or do you feel it had a negative impact on your life?.
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sass_my_frass
There would have to be a segment out there who will never leave, never be abused, never need blood, never have anybody they love leave or get kicked out, and never hear anything negative about it so they'll always be happy about what they believe. I think they'll be getting through life quite amiably.
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sass_my_frass
That's magnificent! They're not even allowed to learn what 'critical thinking' is.
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Could the "Memorial" night and number of partakers be all fake?
by RULES & REGULATIONS infaithful and discreet slave, a distinct class of people comprising the remaining ones of the 'anointed[1]' 144,000[2], or "the remnant"[3] that is "appointed over" others to "give them their food at the proper time", based on their interpretation of matthew 24:45 ("a faithful and wise servant" kjv).. .
each year at the annual "memorial" only the anointed class of members partake of the emblems.
everyone else is an observer.. did you ever think that the memorial is only a display to keep their authority over the rank and file ?
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sass_my_frass
It's going to be awesome when the number of partakers begins to approach and then exceeds 144,000! Then it will become a 'metaphorical' number.
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Are JWN posters considered apostate?
by rmt1 inmy jw elder father is going die of liver cancer, and his prognosis is 3 to 12 months.. i am disassociated and have been out of contact with my family for four years, up until two days ago.
i do not consider myself apostate, because i believe that is constituted by actively trying to undermine a jw's faith.
but i could be way off.. i am hoping to remain in contact with my father during his cancer experience but i need to have some idea of what status or standing they assign to anyone who posts or reads a 'life-after-jw' board such as this one.. in their hierarchy of damnation, does it constitute a biblical-scale apostacy for someone to post to this kind of board?
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sass_my_frass
Yeah I'd say it would be a pretty sweeping judgment on just about everybody here. If you want a relationship with your father it would probably be better off if he didn't know that you were here.
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Barf Alert: Milestones of 2008
by betterdaze injehovahs witnesses spent close to one and a half billion hours in their public ministry in 2008, and a new peak was reached in attendance at their most important annual event, the commemoration of jesus death.
there was an 8.7-percent increase in the number of persons studying the bible with them.
this year has also seen another outstanding publishing feat; the number of languages their instructional material is available in online surpassed 375.. .
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sass_my_frass
Wow that's over 5000 hours per new convert! At minimum wage that's an opportunity cost of $71,550 each. They must really, really care about them!
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So I installed a surveillance camera...
by tooktheredpill inhi guys!.
as many of you already know, i'm in my "fading" process with my wife.
we haven't been to the kh for the last 5-6 months.
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sass_my_frass
Bummer you live so close to the hall; they must be starting their time at your place. That might go on for a while. Can you borrow a big dog for a few months?
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I Retract My Statements
by snowbird inin the recent past, i started a thread on how i can't stand teenagers.. something has happened to make me ashamed of those statements.. my daughter informed me that her 15-year old daughter stayed on the phone all night with a friend because her friend was afraid to go to sleep.. the friend's dad had to leave around midnight to go out of town to work.
the child called my g'daughter and asked her to stay on the phone with her because she was home alone and afraid.. my g'daughter propped herself up in bed with her ipod and a cup of tea and talked to her friend until dawn began to break.
now, that is real friendship.. i just wanted to share this.. sylvia.
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sass_my_frass
Teenagers give me hope! They're smarter than me that's for sure.
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the high cost of divorcing a JW............
by oompa indivorce is hard for everyone, unless the person is just jumping for joy to get out it.....but even then it can be rough....and you lose half your assets.....some people stay in bad marriages just because they can not afford to be divorced........ but esp if you are a born in jw.....you know what is so unfair compared to normal non-jw divorces????
?....what is so fukkin unfair?!?
!.......that you lose all your friends and family!!!!
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sass_my_frass
My husband (a divorcee) described disfellowshipping as multiple divorces without the lawsuit.