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  Name a person you admire for any reason

  by JH in

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  it can be family or a stranger, just anyone you admire for some reason.

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  Amy Lee

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  MY CHALLENGE TO FUNDAMENTALISTS/LITERALISTS

  by Nate Merit in

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  for the fundamentalist christians reading this post who do not like my hermeneutics (principles of biblical interpretation), i challenge you to look up all the passages of the old testament that are quoted in the new testament.

  read the surrounding context of each quotation as it appears in the old testament.

  you will be shocked to discover that the context of the verses in the old testament almost never correspond to the way the verses are actually used in the new testament.

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  Yes if ezboard allowed me to have a name that long, then I don't want any complains from the Administrators! about my name stuffing up their forums....

  So Simon, what is the limit on names on this forum?

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  What do you call God

  by PoppyR in

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  ok, very interested to know, for those of you that still have a faith, and it seems many do.

  what do you refer to god as?

  is jehovah correct, is it not, is it too associated with jws for you to carry on doing that?

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  Evanescence

  I call God,

  abba, father, heavenly father, lord and God....

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  MY CHALLENGE TO FUNDAMENTALISTS/LITERALISTS

  by Nate Merit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for the fundamentalist christians reading this post who do not like my hermeneutics (principles of biblical interpretation), i challenge you to look up all the passages of the old testament that are quoted in the new testament.

  read the surrounding context of each quotation as it appears in the old testament.

  you will be shocked to discover that the context of the verses in the old testament almost never correspond to the way the verses are actually used in the new testament.

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  Darn them! they deleted my thread!

  the admin hasn't complained about it just deleted it

  the only complaint I got was

  "your name is too long please change it, its messing up our forums, please get one that isn't 35 characters long "

  it not my fult "evanescence" was taken so I post under the name "evanescencefiftythousandtears" it's not that long is it?

  nate, the forum to go to is this one http://p094.ezboard.com/fcatholicreformationfrm22?page=1 that is full of fundi's maybe they won't delete it for no apparent reason if you post there

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  MY CHALLENGE TO FUNDAMENTALISTS/LITERALISTS

  by Nate Merit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for the fundamentalist christians reading this post who do not like my hermeneutics (principles of biblical interpretation), i challenge you to look up all the passages of the old testament that are quoted in the new testament.

  read the surrounding context of each quotation as it appears in the old testament.

  you will be shocked to discover that the context of the verses in the old testament almost never correspond to the way the verses are actually used in the new testament.

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  Hmmm the mod there has deleted one of my posts... how convedient

  Oh well I'll just post it again

  Catholic church bashing... isn't it getting kinda old now boo hoo we have statues... get over it

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  Original sin ?????

  by vitty in

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  i was listening to the god channel yesterday and was really surprised to hear the speaker talk of the original sin "sex" between adam and eve.

  i thought only the catholics believed that, how do christians come to that conclusion.?.

  i know there are christians on this board so if you can answer it, im very interested in it.. is it only the jws who believe it was disobedience ?.

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  well I know there are two types of sin... mortal sin and Venial sin...

  Mortal sin...

  There's three basic components to a mortal sin:
  
  1) Grave matter -- basically you've done something that is very bad. Essentially, you've broken one of the 10 commandments.
  
  2) Full knowledge -- you knew that it was a sin of grave matter.
  
  3) Full consent -- you committed the sin of your own free will. That is, you could have realistically chosen not to.

  Venial Sin is not as bad as mortal sin

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  MY CHALLENGE TO FUNDAMENTALISTS/LITERALISTS

  by Nate Merit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for the fundamentalist christians reading this post who do not like my hermeneutics (principles of biblical interpretation), i challenge you to look up all the passages of the old testament that are quoted in the new testament.

  read the surrounding context of each quotation as it appears in the old testament.

  you will be shocked to discover that the context of the verses in the old testament almost never correspond to the way the verses are actually used in the new testament.

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  Nate, I created a thread on a Fundamentalist forum for you

  http://p094.ezboard.com/fcatholicreformationfrm22.showMessage?topicID=4286.topic

  the people there do a lot of Catholic church bashing though....

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  MY CHALLENGE TO FUNDAMENTALISTS/LITERALISTS

  by Nate Merit in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for the fundamentalist christians reading this post who do not like my hermeneutics (principles of biblical interpretation), i challenge you to look up all the passages of the old testament that are quoted in the new testament.

  read the surrounding context of each quotation as it appears in the old testament.

  you will be shocked to discover that the context of the verses in the old testament almost never correspond to the way the verses are actually used in the new testament.

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  Hey Nate I got a reply from a Fundi

  "Almost never".
  
  That means that "some" do. I'd love to see an actual count here of how many quotes there are and how many don't match up. I can't think of any that don't match up.
  
  Anyway, let's give it a test. Starting right with ---
  
  Matthew 1:22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23 "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel"[d]—which means, "God with us."
  
  d. Matthew 1:23 Isaiah 7:14
  
  Okay, here is the first use of a quote from the OT in the NT. It corresponds to this verse (with surrounding verses):
  
  Isaiah 7:1 When Ahaz son of Jotham, the son of Uzziah, was king of Judah, King Rezin of Aram and Pekah son of Remaliah king of Israel marched up to fight against Jerusalem, but they could not overpower it.
  
  2 Now the house of David was told, "Aram has allied itself with [a] Ephraim"; so the hearts of Ahaz and his people were shaken, as the trees of the forest are shaken by the wind.
  
  3 Then the LORD said to Isaiah, "Go out, you and your son Shear-Jashub, to meet Ahaz at the end of the aqueduct of the Upper Pool, on the road to the Washerman's Field. 4 Say to him, 'Be careful, keep calm and don't be afraid. Do not lose heart because of these two smoldering stubs of firewood—because of the fierce anger of Rezin and Aram and of the son of Remaliah. 5 Aram, Ephraim and Remaliah's son have plotted your ruin, saying, 6 "Let us invade Judah; let us tear it apart and divide it among ourselves, and make the son of Tabeel king over it." 7 Yet this is what the Sovereign LORD says:
  " 'It will not take place,
  it will not happen,
  
  8 for the head of Aram is Damascus,
  and the head of Damascus is only Rezin.
  Within sixty-five years
  Ephraim will be too shattered to be a people.
  
  9 The head of Ephraim is Samaria,
  and the head of Samaria is only Remaliah's son.
  If you do not stand firm in your faith,
  you will not stand at all.' "
  
  10 Again the LORD spoke to Ahaz, 11 "Ask the LORD your God for a sign, whether in the deepest depths or in the highest heights."
  
  12 But Ahaz said, "I will not ask; I will not put the LORD to the test."
  
  13 Then Isaiah said, "Hear now, you house of David! Is it not enough to try the patience of men? Will you try the patience of my God also? 14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you [c] a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and [d] will call him Immanuel. [e] 15 He will eat curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right. 16 But before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, the land of the two kings you dread will be laid waste. 17 The LORD will bring on you and on your people and on the house of your father a time unlike any since Ephraim broke away from Judah—he will bring the king of Assyria."
  
  18 In that day the LORD will whistle for flies from the distant streams of Egypt and for bees from the land of Assyria. 19 They will all come and settle in the steep ravines and in the crevices in the rocks, on all the thornbushes and at all the water holes. 20 In that day the Lord will use a razor hired from beyond the River [f] —the king of Assyria—to shave your head and the hair of your legs, and to take off your beards also. 21 In that day, a man will keep alive a young cow and two goats. 22 And because of the abundance of the milk they give, he will have curds to eat. All who remain in the land will eat curds and honey. 23 In that day, in every place where there were a thousand vines worth a thousand silver shekels,
  
  No discrepancy there at all. It is just talking about a "sign" and one of the signs is Immanuel.

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  Catholic church says the bible is wrong

  by Satanus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1811332,00.html

  here are some excerpts:.

  the hierarchy of the roman catholic church has published a teaching document instructing the faithful that some parts of the bible are not actually true.

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  I'll just re-post what I said on the other thread for you then... don't you think your all jumping to conclusions about the CC about that article? That article is very much mis-reported, Bascially, the CC doesn't take the entire bible literally- we believe there are metaphores, poetry, symbolism, allagories, etc. Ex: a sword will come out of Jesus mouth in Rev. Most people don't take that as a literal text, instead that is symbolises he will seperate the people etc. as the Catechism says

  138 The Church accepts and venerates as inspired the 46 books of the Old Testament and the 27 books of the New.

  as the saying goes, don't believe in everything you see on television Evanescence
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  Pepsi or coke?

  by Evanescence in

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  which do you like better pepsi or coke?.

  evanescence *wish there were voting polls on this forum

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  There are - Ozzies weekend poll

  lol! thats not what I meant I was referring to voting polls that other forums have... why don't we have them here? Evanescence