Posts by booby

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instead of posting on the 1975 everlasting life thread

by booby in

*** jv chap.

8 p. 104 declaring the good news without letup (1942-1975) ***.

the witnesses had long shared the belief that the thousand year reign of christ would follow after 6,000 years of human history.

booby

I include this next bit for the benefit of some like Debator et al who look at the letter of what was printed and conclude and argue the issue of whether or not the society said 1975 was it. And while I can acknowledge it is difficult to find the definitive quote to prove they did I can assure that by innuendo they did indeed convey that those were the last days of this system - I was there.

I actually came across the info in the intro of this thread looking up the book THE TRUTH THAT LEADS TO ETERNAL LIFE

And why I was looking up that book is because I remember how the message in that book about the "six month study program" affected me. And this was in 1968. How it affected me could probably be expressed using the word mesmerized. I can remember where I was sitting and listening to this info because while not coming out and saying it necessarily in so many words the clear inference was that the time was so short that we could not dilly dally with bible studies who would not commit and act on what we were teaching them. This is how it was expressed:

***jvchap.8p.105DeclaringtheGoodNewsWithoutLetup(1942-1975)***

This new publication was to be used in connection with a six-month Bible study program. The September 1968 issue of the KingdomMinistry explained how the new program would work: "It would be good to try to study awholechapterofthe'Truth'bookeachweek, though this may not be possible with all householders or with all the chapters in the book. . . . If, at the end of six months of intensive study and conscientious efforts to get them to meetings, they are not yet associating with the congregation, then it may be best to use your time to study with someone else who really wants to learn the truth and make progress. Make it your goal to present the good news on Bible studies in such a way that interested ones will act within six months!"

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instead of posting on the 1975 everlasting life thread

by booby in

*** jv chap.

8 p. 104 declaring the good news without letup (1942-1975) ***.

the witnesses had long shared the belief that the thousand year reign of christ would follow after 6,000 years of human history.

booby

*** jv chap. 8 p. 104 Declaring the Good News Without Letup (1942-1975) ***
"Say, What Does This 1975 Mean?"
The Witnesses had long shared the belief that the Thousand Year Reign of Christ would follow after 6,000 years of human history. But when would 6,000 years of human existence end? The book Life Everlasting-In Freedom of the Sons of God, released at a series of district conventions held in 1966, pointed to 1975. Right at the convention, as the brothers examined the contents, the new book triggered much discussion about 1975.
At the convention held in Baltimore, Maryland, F. W. Franz gave the concluding talk. He began by saying: "Just before I got on the platform a young man came to me and said, ‘Say, what does this 1975 mean?'" Brother Franz then referred to the many questions that had arisen as to whether the material in the new book meant that by 1975 Armageddon would be finished, and Satan would be bound. He stated, in essence: ‘It could. But we are not saying. All things are possible with God. But we are not saying. And don't any of you be specific in saying anything that is going to happen between now and 1975. But the big point of it all is this, dear friends: Time is short. Time is running out, no question about that.'
In the years following 1966, many of Jehovah's Witnesses acted in harmony with the spirit of that counsel. However, other statements were published on this subject, and some were likely more definite than advisable. This was acknowledged in The Watchtower of March 15, 1980 (page 17). But Jehovah's Witnesses were also cautioned to concentrate mainly on doing Jehovah's will and not to be swept up by dates and expectations of an early salvation.

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The letter re: coil binding the elder book

by booby in

i think if an (intelligent) questioning jw was able to read the letter about coil binding the book the impact could/should be greater.

this letter should be an embarrassment to the gb.

what blatant and stupid instructions sent to a large group of men who are supposed to be available to instruct in an intelligent way persons coming with an assortment of life's problems.

booby

I think if an (intelligent) questioning JW was able to read the letter about coil binding the book the impact could/should be greater. This letter should be an embarrassment to the gb. What blatant and stupid instructions sent to a large group of men who are supposed to be available to instruct in an intelligent way persons coming with an assortment of life's problems. It reads more like instructions to a group of kids who are playing a game. They have made up a little code book and must keep it secret from the other groups in their little game. The instructions that "or sisters are not permitted to do this work" should be and I am convinced must be so offensive to women. They have already said that the elder should oversee the process and still a woman is not allowed. It should spark a few brain cells simply in the fact that this letter presumes that fellow believers male or female cannot be trusted. That letter is simply infantile.

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Is the WT going to move on this leak?

by wheelwithinwheel in

jw
friends

i'm sure the legal, public relations and other depts.

are all asking the gb how to handle this situation.

and i'm convinced the gb is scratching it's head trying to decipher j's spirit direction in all of this.

booby

isaacaustin Has a very good point and evaluation of this book. But I think if an (intelligent) questioning JW was able to read the letter about coil binding the book the impact could/should be greater. This letter should be an embarrassment to the gb. What blatant and stupid instructions sent to a large group of men who are supposed to be available to instruct in an intelligent way persons coming with an assortment of life's problems. It reads more like instructions to a group of kids who are playing a game. They have made up a little code book and must keep it secret from the other groups in their little game. The instructions that "or sisters are not permitted to do this work" should be and I am convinced must be so offensive to women. They have already said that the elder should oversee the process and still a woman is not allowed. It should spark a few brain cells simply in the fact that this letter presumes that fellow believers male or female cannot be trusted. That letter is simply infantile.

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Is the WT going to move on this leak?

by wheelwithinwheel in

jw
friends

i'm sure the legal, public relations and other depts.

are all asking the gb how to handle this situation.

and i'm convinced the gb is scratching it's head trying to decipher j's spirit direction in all of this.

booby

Where do you get that notion belbab?

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WT Society Has to be Forced by Courts to Reveal Hidden Child Abuses

by flipper in

in one of the new pieces of information in the new elders manual - section 5:18 - it shows how elders are instructed to keep all judicial committee information private from media or attorneys.

keeping in mind how secretive the wt society has been in hiding child abuse within the jehovah's witnesses notice these instructions to elders now.. it states, " if a member of the media or an attorney representing the accused ( or possibly victims ) contacts the elders , they should not give him any information about the case or verify there is a jc.

rather, they should give the following explanation, " the spiritual and physical welfare of jehovah's witnesses is of paramount concern to the elders, who have been appointed to " shepherd the flock ".

booby

I just thought about how inappropriate making a funny on this thread is, Sorry,

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WT Society Has to be Forced by Courts to Reveal Hidden Child Abuses

by flipper in

in one of the new pieces of information in the new elders manual - section 5:18 - it shows how elders are instructed to keep all judicial committee information private from media or attorneys.

keeping in mind how secretive the wt society has been in hiding child abuse within the jehovah's witnesses notice these instructions to elders now.. it states, " if a member of the media or an attorney representing the accused ( or possibly victims ) contacts the elders , they should not give him any information about the case or verify there is a jc.

rather, they should give the following explanation, " the spiritual and physical welfare of jehovah's witnesses is of paramount concern to the elders, who have been appointed to " shepherd the flock ".

booby

I think that info is copyrighted by the society.

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has this been on the site before? about there never having claimed to be a prophet?

by booby in

*** w72 4/1 p. 200 they shall know that a prophet was among them' ***.

yes, the time must come shortly that the nations will have to know that really a "prophet" of jehovah was among them.

actually now more than a million and a half persons are helping that collective or composite "prophet" in his preaching work and well over that number of others are studying the bible with the "prophet" group and its companions..

booby

Elder-Patrol - I have a suggestion. Lets for a moment forget the fact that we are following a thread that asked about jw's and whether or not they claimed status of prophecy. But since I started the thread lets assume it was started to examine one more avenue to show that they are full of shite. With that in mind read the comments of bennyk. If in doing so you cannot see and/or agree that they have made the claim that god spoon feeds them information which they then pass on as his earthly representative, for the edification of mankind and through that edification provides them the opportunity to grasp onto salvation then I don't see the point in further discussion. You should leave this thread for the rest of us who can see clearly that they are full of shite.

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Circuit assembly symposium outline part 3

by billyboy in

apologies for any formatting / paragraph errors.. part 1 http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/200657/1/symposium-outline-for-circuit-assembly-part-1.

part 2 http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/200863/1/symposium-outline-from-curcuit-assembly-part-2.

the traveling merchants (19 min.

booby

how much polluting the earth does billions of hours of driving around in atmosphere polluting autos cause. How often do they drive three houses at a time instead of walking or idle to keep cool or warm depending on the season.

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Circuit assembly symposium outline part 3

by billyboy in

apologies for any formatting / paragraph errors.. part 1 http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/200657/1/symposium-outline-for-circuit-assembly-part-1.

part 2 http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/200863/1/symposium-outline-from-curcuit-assembly-part-2.

the traveling merchants (19 min.

booby

Where do huge high speed printing presses come from. Where do airliners that carry them around the world come from. WTWizard doesn't like microsoft, sounds like and one can understand that, but if not for the "big business" where would the electronic wizardry that they use to promulgate their kingdom message come from. One could go on and on with this line of reasoning. It simply shows again that they just blow smoke out of their anuses without a thought that is rational in todays world.