this thought came to me this morning, as i was lying in bed, trying to figure out which end is up.... the jws dont celebrate christmas, the birth of christ their savior.... because in earlier times, the same date was used to celebrate the return of the sun, the winter solstice.... (by the way, celebrating the return of the sun makes a lot of sense... no sun - no life..... we know the sun is there, we know what it does, no such thing about a god...) .
but i regress.. so, because on this date, pagans used to celebrate the sun, the jws dont want to celebrate christs birth..... its a little bit like not wanting to celebrate the birthday of a loved one, because he/she was born on the same day as a bad guy in history, like hitler, or napoleon, or slobodan milosevic, or saddam hussein, or osama bin laden... etc.... hmmm... my thinking is flawed, because, of course, the jws dont celebrate birthdays either.... question : did they first decide that christmas was evil or birthday celebrating was ?.
edited because the emoticon does not work.... :) :?
Hiyas Celia, my next door neighbour, how ye be doing lass?
Take a look at the WT May15 1995 p15 article on Flashes of Light - Great and Small, a truly ridiculous statement of affairs by the organisation on these themes.
Hope this helps, have a good 'un this week.
Mark
stop the madness!!
get involved locally with 'green' groups.
take a look at this link and find out what they are planning to do to this ancient forest.. http://headwaters-ef.enviroweb.org/about_hw-ef.html.
Stop the madness!! Get involved locally with 'green' groups. Take a look at this link and find out what they are planning to do to this ancient forest.
http://headwaters-ef.enviroweb.org/about_hw-ef.html
The Headwaters Forest.
All the best!!
Mark
interested in road protests and caring for the environment?
believe the land belongs to the people, not the corporate identity?.
please take a look at this site:.
Interested in road protests and caring for the environment? Believe the land belongs to the people, not the corporate identity?
Please take a look at this site:
http://www.geocities.com/savetheglen/home.html
And take time to view the other links offered on that page:
Enviro-Links
The Land Is Ours
Schnews
UK Road Protests (esp Stanton Moor in Derbyshire, where development is threatening destruction of an ancienct stone circle)
Happy Christmas and future protesting in 2002!!
Mark
i'm not one for christmas music generally.
mrs thirdson has been playing various cds at home and in my car when we are together and i appreciate some of the music but at this time of year i tend to hear too much.
of course growing up i despised christmas music because it was either pagan or just too commercialized.. today i was deeply moved by james taylor's melancholy version of the oft recorded song of this title.
Chink Chink!!
Peaceful tidings!!
Mark
this is my first post and i must say that i have been lurking here from time to time and have been impressed with the content.
back in college i visited the old h2o site many times and this is definitely superior.
thanks to all for the rich content i've been enjoying.. my great mother was a witness making me a fourth generation.
May I muse sociological perspectives with you at some time please?
Very good to see you here Perry, looking forward to sharing company.
Have a good 'un this week!!
is to share with others, looking for energising change forwards.. for those interested in putting their heads together, can has now gone international.. in a nutshell, can is an independent pro-active uk think tank working in social exclusion and community regeneration issues across all sectors.
it is backed by government as well as big business and is very well respected here in the uk.
take a look, the guardian newspaper is in there too.. some very useful links to pages of interest.. if you want/need more info relating to your country and/or you are interested in working with can please let me know, and i'll see if i can get you further tools for helping.. http://www.can-online.org.uk/entrepreneurs/a-z.htm.
Is to share with others, looking for energising change forwards.
For those interested in putting their heads together, CAN has now gone international.
In a nutshell, CAN is an independent pro-active UK think tank working in Social Exclusion and Community Regeneration issues across all sectors. It is backed by government as well as big business and is very well respected here in the UK. Take a look, the Guardian Newspaper is in there too.
Some very useful links to pages of interest.
If you want/need more info relating to your country and/or you are interested in working with CAN please let me know, and I'll see if I can get you further tools for helping.
http://www.can-online.org.uk/entrepreneurs/A-Z.htm
http://www.can-online.org.uk/aboutus/what.htm
http://www.can-online.org.uk/how.htm#can
http://www.can-online.org.uk/how.htm#does
http://www.can-online.org.uk/how.htm#next
http://www.can-online.org.uk/legal.htm
http://www.can-online.org.uk/funding.htm
http://www.can-online.org.uk/activity/index.htm
http://www.can-online.org.uk/marketplace/volsites.htm
Hope you find this sharing of enabling information highly useful.
Need anything, email me.
Kind regards
it doesn't take much to get this old sod very happy.
i just received the bestest christmas pressy ever, my lil boys email address, wey heyyyyy, now i can write to him directly, celtic is one happy man now.. when you only see your only child every 5 months or so for a few days, this means the world to me.. just wanted to share.. peace.
celtic.
It doesn't take much to get this old sod very happy. I just received the bestest Christmas Pressy ever, my lil boys email address, wey heyyyyy, now I can write to him directly, Celtic is one happy man now.
When you only see your only child every 5 months or so for a few days, this means the world to me.
Just wanted to share.
Peace
Celtic
'appy solstice!!
do you have what it takes to be a troll, a fundie or creationist?
are you ready to make a change in the ex-jw world and enlighten the masses and put fear into the hearts of your enemies?.
maybe your assumption was that on the internet, anyone with half a brain could go to online discussion boards like this one and do their business.
To be or not to be, that is the question.
Celtic
Puzzled and looking for more answers
off limits.
each jw culture had its variations, can you remember everything that was looked upon as being or representing, non wholesome activity?.
dangerous sports, competitive sports, welly boots, this, that and the other.... any continuation/s?.
Excuse me Brothers Warm, Cold and Lukewarm but my son ate 3 packets of cat food .... too funny!!
off limits.
each jw culture had its variations, can you remember everything that was looked upon as being or representing, non wholesome activity?.
dangerous sports, competitive sports, welly boots, this, that and the other.... any continuation/s?.
Welcome to the madcap madness of this board, your first post, I am honoured!! Anyway, good to see you here.
The Smurfs were ok here, but I hear you, for many others were banned, the most recent controversy surrounding here in the UK the dayglo muppets with funny aerials on their heads with the sun being made from a babies face, blowed though if I can remember what they are called.
As a kid, growing up in this atmosphere, you end up suspicious of everything around you, everything being demonised out of all proportion that you ended up thinking, 'Who really are the ones, that are more demonized?' Them or that which I am being taught.
The gossip surrounding the baby on the Fairy Liquid bottles here was another one that got circulated. Its actually a wonder any of them go to supermarkets at all with the 666 barcode imprinted on every consumer product, but I guess thats OK, cos they're too lazy to truly care for the environment by living more naturally in tune.
Take good care WG and come back again soon, we'd love to share, swap experiences.
All the best!!
Celtic
Land of pagans and where things go bump in the night
PS That used to cross my mind too, where'd they get all this knowledge that everything is demonised unless they were part of that same in disguise, a sheep in wolves clothing so to speak.
