stillborn adj.
1: dead at birth 2: failing from the start.
have any of your threads 'failed from the start'?.
Oh yeah, just recently I posted a miserable flop of a topic, about a possible connection between Jews and Japanese people; "lost tribes of Israel" type stuff. 0 replies.
"Do you know why?" I'm guessing cause 1) The subject matter sucked, and was rather esoteric. 2) I post in the wee hours of the morning US time, when most UK folks are just grabbing their first cup of coffee, if they're awake at all, and 3) I'm not a particularly well known person here, sorta on the fringes.
if we were to suppose that someone who wants to remain anonymous were to be writing .
about the watchtower society or his/her lifestory,.
and if we were to suppose that this writing were to start off their new career as an author, .
R U Fading
N U Light
Seymour Clear
Jen R Ation
Things that might give you a good idea:
Fawlty Towers (Monty Python comedy) http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/ilove/years/1975/tv1.shtml
John Noakes / John O'Noakes (used like John Doe, but specifically from English law in "actions of ejectment".) "Likewise, the Nuttall Encyclopaedia states that John O'Noakes or John Noakes is a fictitious name for a litigious person, used by lawyers in actions of ejectment." Ejectment sound like disfellowshipping to you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_doe
Monty Green, or Miss Mondegreen (Lady Mondegreen: mondegreen is an invented word for when a person hears something incorrectly, from "laid him on the green" = lady mondegreen) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Mondegreen
i found this newspaper article online today........jr brown makes a comment why there are no windows in kh's.
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/080106/enm_4104779.shtml.
by phillip milano, the times-union.
I've checked around the web seeing if I could figure something out about this, sites like answerbag.com, answers.yahoo.com, etc. The general concensus (amid a lot of arguements) seems to be that some have them, some don't-but the ones that don't tend to be more recently built. Maybe old ones were properties bought with pre-existing buildings on them? Anyway, I'd say this is one of those jumping-at-shadows things.
If I had to give my best edumacated guess, it'd be that it's due to the whole quick-build process. Brother x, y, and z, can help out with the build regardless of whether they know any carpentry skills, but start adding windows and other more skill-intensive features, suddenly you're done to only brother x knowing what to do. Brother x might even get a sense of self importance, and sinful pride. Can't have that. Next thing ya know, Brother x might want to get paid for his troubles.
then i read the warning, and i say to myself, maybe it's only a joke or maybe someone is trying to collect email addresses, so each time you forward, the list gets longer and someone might have many email addresses to send junk to afterwards.. i think that everyone should know that you shouldn't open an attachement from someone you don't know.
anyways here is the warning i received.....so yes i did forward it, but not through emails..... .
better safe than sorry.read the following.
Never.
AATW, of the doing-his-part-to-rid-the-world-of-klaxon class
This is klaxon: http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/klaxon.htm
http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/183727/a-poem-mp3.html ...hope it works...if not can someone help me get it hosted?....cheers btw its by lascelles abercrombie
Mine is actually a whole book, its more prose than poetry in my opinion, but the subject matter is what I really like about it. It's called Spoon River Anthology, by Edgar Lee Masters. Each page in the book is an epitaph from a tombstone, as if written by the deceased buried beneath it, could they tell their story. All the people are from the same cemetary in a small town, and many of the stories as they unfold relate to each other...and sometimes from a vastly different viewpoint. Kinda morbid I guess, but it really is great stuff.
If anybody's interested, you can read the whole thing online legally here:
http://www.antelope-ebooks.com/Spoon/spoon.html Just click the downward pointing hands to "flip" the page to the next poem.
Tetrapod, if you should see this, some things you've said lately lead me to believe you'd appreciate this:
EZRA BARTLETT (Spoon River excerpt)
A chaplin in the army,
A chaplin in the prisons,
An exhorter in Spoon River,
Drunk with divinity, Spoon River --
Yet brining poor Eliza Johnson to shame,
And myself to scorn and wretchedness.
But why will you never see that the love of women,
And even love of wine,
Are the stimulants by which the soul, hungering for divinity,
Reaches the ecstatic vision
And sees the celestial outposts?
Only after many trials for strength,
Only when all stimulants fail,
Dose the aspiring soul
By its own sheer power
Find the devine
By resting upon itself.
so the post from firenbandits http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/134960/1.ashx and the subsequent story reply had me thinking this would be a fun thread.. to start, i've copied a couple of the replies that were on that thread that had me dying laughing....and then one of my own.
what's the greatest prank you pulled or you seen pulled on someone (or pulled on you?)...
hope this brings smiles and lots of replies..... snakesinthetower (of the prankster sheep .
When I was in the Marines, there were several pranks we used to pull that usually involved sending some new guy in the unit down to supply to ask for various inane, nonexistent things, like;
A box of grid squares.
100 feet of flight line.
Form ID-10-T.
A PRICK E-7.
If you get all of the above, you're probably ex-military. If you don't and actually care, here's what they mean:
Grid squares...you know, like on a map. Only the poor schmuck sent to get them thinks they come in a box and must be made of plastic or something.
Flight line...as in, on an airstrip. The butt of the joke thinks he's asking for some kinda special rope.
Form ID-10-T, heck anybody can figure that one out, it's not just a military joke anymore.
PRICK E-7: The backpack radio/telephone that you see used in a lot of war movies is called a PRC-77, commonly called a PRICK-77. An E-7 is high ranking enlisted man. Luckily for newbies sent on this wild goose chase, MOST E-7s are well aware of the joke, and fairly tolerant.
acts 10:34 speaks of god as not being partial.
in the majority of pictures, the married couples are only of the same race and none of them are mixed.
i noticed that in other pictures of the so-called paradise, its segerated amongst races too.
"In the majority of pictures, the married couples are only of the same race and none of them are mixed. I noticed that in other pictures of the so-called paradise, its segerated amongst races too." - icyestrm
I suspect this has more to do with personal perspective (which can be argued is passive racism, I s'pose) than with intentional racism. Authors, artists, etc, tend to do material on that which they already know or are familiar with; probably the artists just didn't think to include mixed race couples cause they don't have any personal friends or family who are.
"Jehovah’s witnesses at all times seek to reflect the Biblical view of matters. The Bible does not specifically discuss interracial marriage. It does, however, show how Jehovah God views humankind and it provides guiding principles for those considering marriage." - QFR as quoted by GermanXJW
Err...maybe I have this wrong, or maybe the NWT translates differently (big surprise there, right?), but I thought there was a passage in the OT about Moses, and his wife being an Ethiopian woman, and Aaron and Miriam being ticked off about it, then getting punished for their attitude? I'm also fairly sure there is a similar story about Solomon and one of his wives... Long time since I've actually given any credence to the bible, can't remember. As to the rest of that QFR, it almost sounds like the same drivel they've given as a reason to not have a beard..."oh no, it might STUMBLE somebody". What crap...maybe the GB should DF themselves for the 2 witness policy, seeing as that's stumbled so many so badly that they ended up on this website!
One thing I give the JWs credit for, is at least they preach a good line when it comes to racism, having never been one, I can't speak for how well it goes into practice. It was a far different thing for me growing up in the Worldwide Church of God under Armstrong, they actively taught that interracial marriage was wrong, because it was undoing what God had wrought or whatever (the seperation of races). You could actually be DF'ed from WWCG for it.
we all know that once this happens it will ring a loud cry from the wts to how it is "growing".
when do you think this will happen?
I suppose the numerical mark is inevitable short of a complete meltdown of the org, after all, world population keeps growing, all the WTS has to do is continually show ANY increase in membership, and eventually they will hit that figure. Is it really that important though? Something for them to crow about, maybe. But really, lots of people know you can make statistics stand on their head if you feel like it. Will the ones who realize that actually care?
Just think of all the global warming and overpopulation threads...world population increase is like 2% I think, and overall population numbers keep growing. It's actually possible for the WTS to "grow" and yet "shrink" at the same time. In other words, they could increase numbers up to your 7 mill mark, but world population grows at the same time at a higher rate...so that the JWs become LESS of the percentage of the people of the world. Think somebody worked it out before as .22%? When world population hits 7 billion plus, the JWs may actually be reduced as a percentage, to say .20%-even if they have higher numbers.
let me first establish that this is pretty shaky ground, and speculation on my part, so please don't flame me if i have things all wrong.
a couple weeks ago i think, i remember a post about moses, and the authenticity of the bible, in which it was mentioned that the tribes of israel may have actually been an asiatic people called the hyksos.
i found it interesting, but had never heard of the hyksos before.
Let me first establish that this is pretty shaky ground, and speculation on my part, so please don't flame me if I have things all wrong. A couple weeks ago I think, I remember a post about Moses, and the authenticity of the bible, in which it was mentioned that the Tribes of Israel may have actually been an Asiatic people called the Hyksos. I found it interesting, but had never heard of the Hyksos before. Somewhere in the back of my mind though, I remembered something I read a couple years ago that attempted to give credence to a Jewish-Japanese connection. It took me until now to dredge it up:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/israel/losttribes3.html
http://www5.ocn.ne.jp/~magi9/isracame.htm
After comparing what I read about the Hyksos, and then reading the other info about a possible Jewish- Japanese connection, I started wondering if the two subjects could be related. Plus, people are always talking about possible answers to 'the king of the north' and 'king of the south' as in Armageddon, made me wonder; what if all that Revelation stuff was about some feudalistic Japanese civil war or something?
Some of the things on these sites are interesting, but I have no idea of the credentials of the guy who wrote the second page (not the PBS one), so his motives and knowledge are unknown. And since I'm atheist, whatever the answer is isn't really important, I just find it intellectually interesting. Since I was brought up in the Worldwide Church of God (Armstrong) which draws on British-Israelism for a lot of it's doctrine, when I was growing up lots of people were always trying to guess and theorize stuff like this, guess that's sorta stuck with me.
Feel free to comment, shoot it down, consider the possibilities...I'd especially be interested in opinions by some of the 'heavies' like Leolaia et al.
i was wondering how many non-jw's (like myself who have never been a jw) there are on this board?
i've found this board to be of great help & support because our son is currently being brainwashed into the cult by his wife and kh members.
i was just wondering how many other people are in the same boat as myself.. also, are you making any headway in your loved one's life?
Lavendar: I was never a witness, I joined this site in an attempt to keep my wife from going headfirst down the rabbit hole, so to speak. She started studying with witnesses, and things in our marriage began to suffer as a result. I agree with what another poster said, jgnat is an excellent person to get advice from on the whole spouse-of-a-witness front. Your circumstances are more common than you might think, there were two posters with similar names (vets of the board will be sure to know, but I can't recall at the moment), both were ConcernedMama or ConcernedParent, something like that, where the parent's child began dating or married a JW.
Don't give up, you CAN make a difference, my wife no longer studies with the witnesses, and I recently even got her to admit her own self-doubts on one of their key doctrines (no blood). I remember when I first joined one of the things that jgnat told me: "JWs appreciate mildness". This has been true in my case, going head to head with them and being confrontational just makes them shut down and get this thousand yard stare, like they're tuning in to a universal wavelength of WTS instructions (one of the reasons for all the jokes about the WTS being the BORGanization).
