Shaul, I am late to this party, but I am glad to hear that you handled it perfectly. I'm glad you have half of your kids free. My best to you-be well, take care of yourself and let your JW and non JW kids do their duty to you! Ask them for help when you need it since some of them are so worried about you!
JWdaughter
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suggestions for elder a nd co visit
by Shaul ingetting a visit tommorow our kids that are in are concerned as to why we are missing meetings.
our family is basically ignored by the congregation long story we just don't want to go anymore.
i have told the kids how rotten i have been treated and also i have had some seriou health issues but you know you should still be at the meetings.
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My sister died
by poppers injust got word that my sister died.
she had surgery for heart valve replacement about 5 weeks ago, and when they opened her up for it they found cancer.
we had an extra special relationship since i was her "birthday present" when she turned 10 in 1951. this is my second sibling to die of cancer in 14 months..
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JWdaughter
I'm so sorry.
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Can WTBTS legally do this for international conventions.
by joe134cd ini was just reading this on jwservey with regard to the international conventions.
if an individual selected to attend a special convention loses his exemplary status and is no longer qualified to attend, the delegate should be thoroughly informed of the reason for your decision.
such a person would be fully responsible for any financial loss associated with his abrupt disqualification as a delegate, even up to the time he was supposed to depart.. .
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JWdaughter
If we were so exemplary, I guess we wouldn't be cancelled from going! Basically, they just want to warn you that they are not going to give you back any of your travel expenses if you are canceled. I think any "tour group" would have to let you go or refund you, but they have no control over the elders-it is probably a brother who would be out if you cancel, too. They have to take you and if they refuse, they need to refund. And heck, I'd call a lawyer if they didn't do one or the other.
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so happy today!!
by XstuckX ini'm married with small children.
my wife and i both born-in and baptized jws.
i began my slow drift about a year ago.
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JWdaughter
Adamah and Billy are right. Holding out for the future part ownership is likely pointless even if you were still drinking the KoolAid. You do need to cover your butt. IM me if you have any other questions.
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so happy today!!
by XstuckX ini'm married with small children.
my wife and i both born-in and baptized jws.
i began my slow drift about a year ago.
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JWdaughter
Talk to an employment attorney tomorrow about your rights and options regarding your job. This is definitely a time for legal consultation.
Congratulations! As to Christmas, tell your wife that you are consulting with a lawyer about how to protect yourself and quietly get your holiday together in the meantime.
I would suggest you lawyer up in every direction cause they will likely try to hurt you so that you don't hurt them(boss). Get a legal plan in place for preventive assistance and speak to a lawyer.
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Can WTBTS legally do this for international conventions.
by joe134cd ini was just reading this on jwservey with regard to the international conventions.
if an individual selected to attend a special convention loses his exemplary status and is no longer qualified to attend, the delegate should be thoroughly informed of the reason for your decision.
such a person would be fully responsible for any financial loss associated with his abrupt disqualification as a delegate, even up to the time he was supposed to depart.. .
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JWdaughter
A tour? If you were buying your own hotel and transportation, why would they need to pay you back? If it is a tour group, what does the agreement say as to how they can exclude you or not? It is simple, but the WT can not likely be held in any way responsible for your costs for a convention that you can not or do not attend. UNLESS there is an admission fee and they refuse you admittance or to refund it. Last I knew, they didn't charge admission (well, there was the Tacoma Convention parking scandal). Hotels and transportation: if a tour, I think they have to let you on the tour if you paid for it-they just don't have to let you into the event if your privileges have been recinded. If the tour coordinator is JW, it would BEHOOVE them to refund you, unless they wanted an unworthy JW in their midst for all weekend or whatever.
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Finally decided to introduce myself here
by cookiemaster inhey guys !
i've stopped believing the watchtower crap a few years ago.
i achieved this on my own, despite being raised as one.
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JWdaughter
Welcome, I like a guy with cookie in his name. Today in honor of one of my fave posters, I made blondies. Whats your favorite cookie? When I make it I will send happy thoughts your way, along with simpatico support. My best to you. You have a great future with your mind clear of the WT nonsense!!
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Help me...!
by OneDayillBeFree inlost my job, just a week before making the final arrangements to move into my very own apartment.. got a speeding ticket on the following sunday for trying to make it to the meeting "on time", (never made it to the hall, just parked in the back of a shopping center for 2 hours in silence).. marked by the elders for quitting pioneering, no more commenting and "failing to adhere to bible counsel".. jw family sees me as a disappointment.
non-jw family is too far away to care.. found out ex-girlfriend got df'ed and is now pregnant.
puts some of the blame on me for how things turned out.. realizing that she's not entirely wrong as i was still an ignorant, kiss-ass, die hard jwdub when we started dating, always putting the "kingdom interests first" never having time for her since "the end was so freaking close" and then warping her up in the mess of me learning ttatt.. dwelling night after night in "what could have been" if i had never been a jw.. alternating between being a theist, atheist and agnostic on a daily basis to the point where i don't care anymore yet getting creeped the f*ck out when facing my own mortality and the thought of me dying alone.. always coming to the same conclusion, when i find myself alone on friday nights and weekends, that i have no actual friends, only two conditional jw "friends" which are both currently out of town for about a month and 0 real, non-jw friends.. haven't been able to sleep well in literally weeks now.
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JWdaughter
It looks like you took a deep breath and got some perspective-that's good! There is a adage that you take all your troubles and separate the ones you actually have control over, the ones you have no control over. Ignore the ones you have no control over and deal with the rest. Ex's--water under bridge. Job-you are already taking steps. Ticket? Write a letter to the court and find out how you can challenge the ticket (even though you paid). You don't want it on your record. You usually have some recourse, even though it seems a done deal now.
Moving away? Heck, if you can afford it and you can deal with losing the connections (and chains) that bind you to that place, it might be a good option for you. Disappearing is one good way to fade away. No exes, elders or whatever dogging you. Make sure that you don't cut any ties that you will actualy regret (one good reason to move is that you can fade if you wish)
You are going to be ok. You DO have friends and you do have support. You can get a new job (Houston is a great place to work and not $$$ to live in. And it was 72 degrees today and PERFECT with sunshine. Just saying
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My friend's Mom apologized to her kids for teaching them lies!
by Hortenzie inshe has been a witness most of her life.
her three kids were brought up as jw in a communist country and the whole family suffered reprisals from the regime for being in the org.
(father was well know elder).
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JWdaughter
That's a loving mom. I'm glad they were blessed with a mother who could be strong AND humble. She will have children who always have reason to honor her and respect that she really was doing what she thought was right-and when she knew otherwise, she corrected. How many do that?
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American Drone Strike Kills 13 people in a wedding party
by fulltimestudent inif americans want to understand the reservoir of hate for them that is building up against them - then ask how you would feel?.
reference: http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/12/21879956-officials-us-drone-strike-kills-13-in-yemen-wedding-convoy?lite.
officials: us drone strike kills 13 in yemen wedding convoyby ahmed al-haj, the associated press.
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JWdaughter
Fulltimestudent:I say it with some authority as I lived for years (recently) in the Middle East/North Africa region. I am family with Pakistanis and Egyptians. I am dear friends with Syrians, Lebanese, Saudi, Palestinians, Sudanese, etc. I hear the conversations and I see the pain.
Most are mad at governments who oppress. Ours is just a visiting one and strength and level of death that we bring to the fight horrifies them, but generally someone is bringing it anyway. They hate when we help oppressors, but they are really fed up with their own people,ignorant and uneducated in every way, being duped by power hungry despots (whether the govt. or the revolutionaries or the guerillas).
The more educated are desperate for real educational reform in their home countries. They see the principles of the true Islam in our country in many ways (not all), and that is why just about everyone STILL wants to be in America. I got nothing but love, kindness and appreciation over there (except forone taxi driver who was offended at my level of arabic after living there for years.)