did jesus have a god that he worshipped?
"Hey- you all are lettin' me down! Where's all the hostility, all the insults?"
Trolls have short life-spans on this board....you are already predictable and boring. We need'nt worry however, as soon it sinks in we are now ignoring his troll threads, he/she/it will simply create a new account (a la Fred Hathaway/Q-bert) to troll with.....At least Brown Boy was amusing!
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who was the injured party?
in the garden of eden when both adam and his wife, eve rebelled against instructions from their landlord, jehovah.. "in the day you eat of it (the fruit) you shall surely die.".
adam and eve ate of it.
"What is wrong with this doctrine is that it makes God out to be a fiend, a sadist and a brute."
Exactly. And in my years here on JWD and a lifetime of dealing with JWs, I have yet to hear a remotely satisfactory rebuttal from a believer regarding this obvious logical fallacy.
The entire raison d'etre of christianity rests upon this hopelessly flawed "myth" of "original sin"..........
Any believers going to join the discussion?.............................<< crickets chirping >>........................
http://www.theatlasphere.com/columns/070323-sowell-swindle.php.
i try to give both sides of issues a fair read.. all of you who have been convinced by scientific evidence that global warming has been caused by man and can be stopped by man should read the above.. how about specific comments pertaining to the above for a change rather than simply policy wank rants??.
global warming swindleopinion editorial by thomas sowell - mar 23, 2007britains channel 4 has produced a devastating documentary titled the great global warming swindle.
"How about specific comments pertaining to the above for a change rather than simply policy wank rants??"
Terry implores, just before cutting and pasting a right-wing rant from one of the biggest neo-con "policy wonks" in the US. LMAO.....
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the wts has figured out that if you bring jesus out once a year, and create a "showy display", then the rank and file will be sufficiently convinced that the jw's hold jesus as a central figure in their beliefs.
to anyone else, it can immediately be seen for what it is.
a publicity stunt.
"It seems obvious that Perry was addressing Jw's here - lurkers who deny Christ by pretending to accept Him."
Really does not matter. This is a public discussion forum with a multiplicity of differing perspectives....we all have the right to call his post as we see it. As to the second sentence, it is your opinion (based upon your particular 'brand' of x-tianity) which leads you to the conclusion that JWs are "rejecting" christ while "pretending" to accept him. Active JWs would consider you to be a false christian, so why should anyone here consider you or Perry to be "better" christians than JWs???? Frankly, the very fact that you have this elated opinion of your particular "flavour" of x-tianity sounds like the antithesis of what a humble, loving and forgiving christian should be behaving like.....
"I doubt this thread was started to attack others who have taken a non-Christian course in some way. Why does it always turn that way?"
Simple. Inqusitor already answered the question perfectly. Perry is a self-righteous wind-bag who thinks he has a monopoly on "true" christianity. He sits on his brass-plated throne casting his righteous judgements and pronouncements upon all those whom he considers morally or "religiously" inferior. He spews anti-science and anti-evolution propaganda whenever he gets the chance whilst suffering from the delusion that there really was a fantasy garden called "Eden" where some sky-king decided to create an "Adam & Eve".....
In every facet, Perry is the intellectual equivalent of an active JW. He thinks he alone has the "true" version of christianity whilst condemning other christian sects and in the process violating the cardinal principal of christian morality: "Judge not, lest ye be judged".....
I wonder when that parrot is finally going to poop on his shoulder?
i was just starting to think, they removed religion from schools and public areas and jobs.
whats next?
the removal of everyone who believes in god or some high power?
"Religion changes. But, very slowly. It is an anchor that conserves the basic good of society."
Yes, it certainly is an "anchor".....one that is tied around the neck of a culture, dragging it down into the murky black water of superstition whilst simultaneously impeding progress.
in the time i've been reading these forums i've seen a few apologists posting on threads, but what i've never seen was them interacting with each other.
is it the same person with multiple logins, or is there some sort of code of honor that prevents them from agreeing with each other.
is it like seeing another witness in a porno store?
Interesting point and you're right.....they do seem to ignore each other. I think your analogy about two JWs noticing each other in a porno store is highly appropriate, we would expect them to lower their heads and pray to Jehoobie that the one has not seen the other leafing through the girlie mags.
The very fact they are posting here at all is a direct violation of "orders" from "headquarters" and merely advertises the painfully obvious cognitive dissonance they are no doubt experiencing as they read the truth about their little cult.
In the past, some have created sock puppet accounts to prop themselves up during flamings. PMJ comes to mind. Most of them are simply attention whores, as they deliberately attempt to inflame threads by posting their apologist propaganda, then revelling in all the negative attention they receive. Pretty sad, really.
soon after we arrive on this earth, we become aware of the most fundamental fact of our existence, that we won't be here very long.
an average life span lasts less than 30,000 days.
we sleep a third of that time, so the days we experience number less than 20,000. we may try, but we can't ever completely deny our mortality.
Need-Brain writes:
FINALLY the secrets of all ages have been disclosed here, today, on this message board by someone who cuts and pastes from wikipedia, and is about to come again to tell me how unwise I am for not believing this great gospel
Ooooh! Such eviscerating wit! Lord save me from your cutting words, sharper than dull safety scissors! I wonder, need-brain, can you actually prove that anything written in my previous post on this thread is from Wikpedia or are you, as per usual, speaking out of your ass? I have no doubt you find it difficult to deal with a person that actually comprehends biology given your academic credentials from the "Awake" University as your pitiful insecurities emerge in all their glow as you attempt to impress with your talentless ad hominem attacks. I wonder, do you have any substantive inputs to add to the thread, or should you return to the sandbox to continue your little tantrum?
Now, given your accusation, please post your PROOF, with LINKS, to the precise web-site you claim I have taken the words from my previous post on this thread from, or simply prove to everyone on this board that you are a pathetic liar.
i saw this today on an email and wanted to share it with y'all.. "i may not be perfect, but i'm canadian and that's close enough.
i am only 140 miles geographically and 2 generations from being canadian, so i can appreciate your sentiments on the subject!.
shelly
G'day from the Great White North, eh!
the latest from brooklyn ( my mate in upper management ) i thought id share.. .
the watchtower is remaining bi monthly.
instead of both monthly offerings sharing same formats there is a change coming into action soon.
"LOLOLO! JWd, you need remember to "Keep your eyes on the things ABOVE- NOT on the things below!" Just focus on YOUR devotion to God & Christ- and don't let such things bother you!
Agape, Mad"
LOLLOLOLOLOL!!!! Mads off his medication again!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
soon after we arrive on this earth, we become aware of the most fundamental fact of our existence, that we won't be here very long.
an average life span lasts less than 30,000 days.
we sleep a third of that time, so the days we experience number less than 20,000. we may try, but we can't ever completely deny our mortality.
"Christians (and even Moslems and Jews) believe in a future resurrection of all the dead and even that there is life after death. Something the atheists claim is just mythology."
Um, no. Atheists debunk the mythology of religion, GD. An amusing statement however. If you were living in ancient Druid England, you would simply have faith in the "fashionable" religious mythology of your cultural context.
ALL ancient and present religions incorporate beliefs based upon mythological "immortal creatures"......You just happen to believe in jesus because of the time and culture you inhabit within this historical epoch. Had you been born a few thousand years ago you would have believed in the ancient Greek afterlife, or the ancient Roman afterlife....its all the same song and dance, just the names of the characters change with time..........................
