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  Do the FDS use Spiritism to contact the '24 Elders' and the 144000?

  by Gill in

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  the watchtower has always, in its publications, talks etc warned against contact with spirit creatures!.

  jws are notoriously terrified of anything that might even remotely be to do with spiritism.. however, i find it totally bizarre that they can accept 'spirit guidance from the 24 elders' as an explanation to how the holy spirit guides the fds!.

  i would, in simple terms call this a form of spiritism.

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  Interestingly, and I hate to feed into any conspiracy theories, but..., there is among occult orders a group of entities often called the Secret Chiefs.

  The Secret Chiefs are said to be transcendent cosmic authorities responsible for the operation and moral calibre of the cosmos, or for overseeing the operations of an esoteric organization that manifests outwardly in the form of a magical order or lodge system. Their names and descriptions have varied through time, dependent upon those who reflect their experience of contact with them.

  One early and influential source on these august entities is Karl von Eckhartshausen, whose The Cloud Upon The Sanctuary, published in 1795, explained in some detail their character and motivations. Several 19th and 20th centuryoccultists claimed to belong to or to have contacted these Secret Chiefs and made these communications known to others, including H.P. Blavatsky (who called them the "Tibetan Masters"), Dion Fortune (who called them the "esoteric order"), Max Heindel (who called them the "Elder Brothers").

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Chiefs

  But, this is also not explicitly an occult concept and doesn't mean the GB had to have used spiritistic means of contacting entities any more uncommon than prayer, which is also a basic "spiritistic" practice. (Sorry, hard to write that without confusing it with "Spiritualism")

  In other words, fundamentally, if you pray, you practice spiritism.
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  Big Question

  by choosing life in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know there may not be an answer to this question, but i am truly interested in other's views.

  i know many are of various beliefs and some do not believe in god at all.. the question is: why does god not stop the suffering?

  i watch so many suffer for no reason and no matter how i try to figure it out, i always come back to the fact that a loving parent would not allow their child to suffer needlessly.

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  Its answered in a non religious book "Conversations with God" by Neale Walsh-------New York best seller list for years

  I read that book. It's interesting. But remember that it's merely one person's perspective.

  And... I would hesitate before suggesting any book contains the perfect answer to such a complex conundrum. It certainly does not.

  "If you meet the buddha on the road, kill him."
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  Scientology, L Ron hubbard's son speaks, Occult

  by wednesday in

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  2. scandals

  http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/scien240.html.

  i ran across this article on the net.

  it is an older issue of penthouse, (83) and has an interview with the son of ron l. hubbard.

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  A little tidbit. Scientologists who are aware of the Crowley connection to their religion steer clear of members of Crowleys' esoteric order, the OTO.

  Crowley did not particularly care for Hubbard. Hubbard was more of an associate of a student of Crowley's, a scientist who worked for the Jet Propulsion Labs named Jack Parsons.

  Hubbard robbed Parsons blind, stole his wife and basically royally screwed him over.

  No, Crowley did not much care for Hubbard. His opinion, I believe, was that Hubbard bastardized the teachings for his own purposes in order to enslave the masses rather than to free them, which was one of Crowley's endeavors.
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  A SIMPLE EXPLANATION of why TIME TRAVEL doesn't work

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  energy and matter are neither created nor destroyed.. consequently, the building blocks of existence are actually finite parts.. to create things in "tomorrow" which are new, something has to be dismantled to leave spare parts for the new thing.. the old thing deteriorates, (dies) and the parts become the new thing.. time travel requires going to a place where all of today's parts are completely dismanteled and are being used (or not) to maintain yesterday/tomorrow.. ever see the film primer?.

  said slightly differently...... you go into a room.

  on the table is a box of dominoes.

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  What IP_SEC said. The difference between past, present and future is illusory as they seem to exist all at once.
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  Big Question

  by choosing life in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know there may not be an answer to this question, but i am truly interested in other's views.

  i know many are of various beliefs and some do not believe in god at all.. the question is: why does god not stop the suffering?

  i watch so many suffer for no reason and no matter how i try to figure it out, i always come back to the fact that a loving parent would not allow their child to suffer needlessly.

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  My opinion is that something I might comprehend as "God" contains all and is all. That means that everything is a part of this entity, this amalgam of universal energies, what we think as "bad" is just as much a part of It as the "good" is.

  We like to think we're oh so very special. And we are in a way. But we're no more special than anything else.

  The destructive forces, the negatives, are just as necessary for the universe to function as the creative forces are, stars are born and stars die. And it is hubris to think we might somehow be exluded from either side of it.
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  Stinky boys

  by mrsjones5 in

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  my oldest son is 12 and he has a friend the same age who lives across the street (i'll call him gilbert).

  gilbert likes to come over and play video games with my son.

  if i allowed it gilbert would be over everyday possiblely spending quite a few overnite here too.

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  I caught this one after the sequal thread you created.

  Stinkiness in a boy could just be a phase, or it could be symptomatic of a more serious problem.

  The stinky kid in my elementary school had all sorts of family problems. I saw him, years later, working as a cook at a Waffle House. He was just out of prison for selling drugs and was hoping to move up within the Waffle House hierarchy.

  If you can be, be there for the kid. I would hesitate just yet on contacting cps unless some obvious signs of abuse become apparent. But I'd keep an eye on things.
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  Big Question

  by choosing life in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know there may not be an answer to this question, but i am truly interested in other's views.

  i know many are of various beliefs and some do not believe in god at all.. the question is: why does god not stop the suffering?

  i watch so many suffer for no reason and no matter how i try to figure it out, i always come back to the fact that a loving parent would not allow their child to suffer needlessly.

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  How do you reconcile suffering with a loving God. Or do you?

  When someone's actions belie their words, which do youbelieve?
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  [Fluff] - Celebrity Crushes!

  by daystar in

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  2. entertainment

  i'll admit that for as far back as i can remember, i've picked up little crushes on celebrities.

  i think one of my first crushes was on olivia newton-john after seeing her in grease at 5 years old and later in xanadu.. i've had crushes on:.

  jennifer connelly (labrynth)gwyneth paltrow (hook briefly and later emma)cate blanchett (elizabeth, pushing tin)meredith salenger (the journey of natty gann, but especially, especially, in dream a little dream)kate beckingsale (much ado about nothing, cold comfort farm (not underworld, though she's smokin' in that.

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  I love Grace Kelly as well. So beautiful. So... well, graceful.

  FHN

  I have a funny little story about Live for you. Before their Throwing Copper album, the one that really put them on the map, they had one hit, "Pain Lies on the Riverside". I was 19 or 20 at the time, so still quite in the scene. People had heard it on the radio, but hadn't quite put the song with the band yet. (I mean, they even got the name wrong. Originally it was "Live" with a short "I". They gave up early on trying to correct people.)

  Anyway, Live was set to open with a bunch of other bands for Peter Murphy, of Bauhaus fame down in Austin, Texas back in '92 or so. I mean, there were like eight other bands playing before Peter did. It was an all day thing with sand volleyball courts, outdoor showers, etc.

  By the time Live came on stage, everyone was tired. And Ed poured his ever-loving heart out. And nobody paid any attention to him. After all, we were just there to see the legend that was Peter Murphy!! Ooh, Ed got so pissed off. No one was up dancing. People were straggling around just drinking, etc. He stood at the front of the stage and yelled at people to stand up and get into it and people just waved him off. Poor guy...

  Anyway, Peter was outstanding. He came on just after sundown, of course. I had forgotten my normal glasses, so had to wear my prescription sunglasses throughout. I had this long, dark hair and I'm 6'2", so I rather stood out in a crowd. I could swear to this day that Peter Murphy stopped parading around the stage and sang to me at one point, when I'd caught his eye. My friends with me noticed this and were kind of excited.

  Anyway, I guess not so funny after all. But I didn't lie about the story part. It was indeed a story, right?
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  Was this really a smart choice of words?

  by sammielee24 in

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  i was watching pres bush in a speech telling the world that he is 'compelled' and 'driven by a higher power'.

  that god wants him to give people around the world freedom.

  that 'this crusade', the usa is on.............well...that was part of it and i sat there thinking.

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  (singing) I am so smart! I am so smart! S-M-R-T! I mean S-M-A-R-T!

  
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  5-Star cooking in the Wilderness

  by OUTLAW in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i realise my life is different than most.i live in the wilderness,in the mountains,where most people will never set foot..right now the temperature is 1-f,a few more hours and it will be below zero-f..the snow is over a foot deep and will be deeper by morning..i just cooked a nice steak on the bbq,out on the patio..i cook there,breakfast,lunch and dinner,regardless of weather or season..my bbq runs on propane..i love propane or natural gas.when i went to chef`s school,i was taught on propane..what is your favorite way to cook food?...outlaw

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  Definitely on the grill. I'm such a grill snob though, that I refuse to buy a cheap grill while I save up for a real nice one. So, , yeah, how stupid is that?!

  So, lately, my new york strips, my burgers, my mesquite grilled chicken breasts, my herb marinaded pork chops... all on the frickin' stovetop... in a skillet. Blasphemy! I know...