How fortunate I am to have found this thread!!! Yes, friends, this resplendent thread has remained hidden for one thousand years as I have browsed through the active topics only occasionally as of late!!! How fortunate indeed!!!
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How I got out of JWs, they showed me the way!
by out of the box ini have been writing 'my story' in bits and pieces here.
it was pouring out, one of the kids sick, jw husband wasn't going.
i got in the car (this little hatch-back car was a loaner from the garage because our larger car was being repaired) i was stopped at a stop sign and i was on time for the meeting.. i heard something and turned in time to see something coming at me fast.
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out of the box, thanks for sharing your story. so sad. like any organization, the jw's have their share of amazingly compassionate folk along with terrible, selfish users. but the whole separatist groupthink mindset of the org is what i think tends to draw more of the latter. shameful. just curious what part of virginia you're in...i'm about to move up to new york for grad school, in just a few weeks, hence the listing on my profile, but i've lived in richmond va all my life and i attended sandston congregation.
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Women What do you Look for in Men
by LouBelle inright so being single and being free to look and date the male species i'm sad to announce that there really is no much of a choice out there.
perhaps i'm not looking in the right places, or perhaps i just don't do it for these men.
anyway what do you look for in a guy.
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i like males with an equal share of wit and wisdom. clearly, chemistry is just an essential ingredient that either is or isn't there. i need to see a measure of passion for something in order to be interested, and if that passion is for something that i know nothing about, then that is all the more interesting for me. he must be adventerous, as in willing to travel & try new things for dinner, in the bedroom, at the cinema, etc. oh and he must live in the city and not fear the public transportation. spectacles don't hurt either.
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The Governing Body's hidden agenda
by greendawn inthe gb have a manifest agenda that they present to the world regarding their intentions and policies.
however they also a have a hidden agenda which spells their real intentions and policies.
to mention an example they say that the jw kids should not attend university because it is pointless in view of the end soon, the risks of fleshly temptations and loss of eternal life, the god blessed pioneering work is a better way to spend their time etc.
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I wonder about this often. What is the true motive of the GB? Of course, many posters here are correct, it is entirely possible and probable for any individual or group to have multiple motives that work together in a matrix. But does anyone with any experience with the GB or Bethel or just more years in the Society than myself have any insight? Is it in the primary goal matrix, if you will, of the Governing Body to amass wealth, bring about the Kingdom of Jehovah, breed an army of zombie cultists for world domination or what? Do they buy the tripe they sell and just happen to be clueless as to the impact of the policies they push on the rank and file? Or are they just trying to make a buck with publishing? As someone who has studied land use planning and policy, I see a huge seizure of and monopoly of some prime historic Brooklyn Heights property as a big deal, but I have yet to really begin studying that one. What gives?
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Bitter, Better or Both?
by damselfly indo you feel that you are still bitter towards jw's?
or do you feel that you are better off without them?
maybe you feel both bitter and better?.
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The years go by and I feel better and better, certainly better off than when I was parading around as someone whom I am not (a devoted young JW.) However, I guess as I grow up and get older, things crop up now and then and I feel a lot of resentment towards the organization of my past. Just graduating from college in May of this year, at the age of 29, well, that brought up a lot, and the years leading to it did. I think in many, many ways (too many to list here) I am a late bloomer, and it's almost all related to my upbringing in the JW org. So I guess without going into detail, what I'm trying to say is that on the whole I feel better and better, even reached a plateau a few years ago, but every so often big events make me look back with resentment on my past. But who knows, I always had low self esteem, my parents were depressed, and my mom died when I was ten. Maybe if it hadn't been a crazy repressive cult it would have been something else. At least I have a story to tell.
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You will be shown hatred on the account of my name.
by Chicky inhas it ever occurred to any body out there why jehovah's witnesses are so disliked/picked on etc?
do you ever wonder why we are the only religion that gets a bad rap?
doesn't that tell you non jw's out there anything?
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Chicky, please pick up a history book or if that isn't convenient just turn on your television. Take a look at the history of persecution endured by all forms of Christianity. Torture and exile, maiming and death. Look at what Muslims are dealing with in this decade. Many are being attacked on the streets in America. Saying that Jehovah's Witnesses are the only religion given a bad rap really reveals just how far under a rock you've been living, and it makes the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society look really small and dumb. ALL RELIGION IS GIVEN A BAD RAP! Even my Presbyterian church, which gives me free books all the time. Additionally, while its true that your conduct reflects on the name of your God, you should know that your spelling makes an equally large statement. You're probably a very smart person who just gets all excited throwing out an unsolicited defense of your cult, but it really doesn't help your case when no one can understand what youre trying to say.
Peace.
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Could we be right, and they be right too?
by JH inis it possible that just about everything we say about the jw's on this forum is true, but on the other hand they would be the only true religion that god approves, even though they are imperfect and make errors?
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I think so many wonderful points have been made here. I think it's a question we want to have a very distinct answer, but how can a matter of faith ever come down to anything other than just that? Oh, but I do enjoy seeing this question voiced and mulled over, as it is one over which I spent many nights and days in agony. For me it comes down to the lack of organized charity of any type. Even if the shunning and the pain and the cover-ups were okay, and the total lack of compassion on the part of most elders when it comes to anybody's real life experiences, and the discouragement of higher education about everything that God created, and the blood and all else, I really don't understand how God's people can refuse to help each other out now and again. I know that many Jehovah's Witnesses regularly give much compassion to OTHER Jw's, but if I had to answer this question, I would judge the charitable works of the JW organization against the charitable works of almost every other organized religion in the entire freaking world. I am so sick of watching them give Watchtowers and Awakes to the homeless people at my bus stop. They think they're doing a good thing, but its really just self promotion. You could say that the lack of good works could be countered by the lack of involvement in crime and genocides that other world religions have taken part in, but one) JW's are a sect of Christianity so there's no avoidance of bloodshed there, and with 6 million non-voters to start with, well, there's really no political power there to begin with, so of course there's nothing going on there.
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In which cities do you feel safe / not safe?
by DannyBloem inme and my lady friend were attacked in capetown by a guy with a knife.
i was frozen of fear, she kicked him very hard, but became little injured by the knife, he took of injuired also.
i did basically nothing, just stading there.
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So sorry to hear of your attack! That is a terrible thing. I, too, have been lucky so far and have not had such a situation. As a student of urban planning, and the experiences I have had in my urban neighborhood vs. much larger cities (all in USA) I find that a more populated neighborhood with heavy traffic into the late hours feels safer than one in which the streets and sidewalks are empty. Empty space provides less watchful eyes and therefore more opportunity for ill-intentioned ones to commit crimes. I feel safer walking around populated parts of Manhattan than I do other smaller cities. Jane Jacobs wrote a great book called "The Death and Life of Great American Cities" and she builds a case for safer streets and sidewalks by community self-policing. Lights help but a well-lit empty sidewalk is still empty. Many of her examples show structures built for community activity within project housing not being used for their intent and instead being vandalized and used as places to commit crimes because of their vast emptiness. On the other hand, neighborhoods with the same quality of housing but zoned for mixed use, encouraging small businesses, are often busy and bustling with legitimate purposes, people buying groceries, a paper, waiting for a bus, etc. and therefore provide more safety than artificial empty spaces. Of course, all the city planning in the world doesn't mean much at the moment when you're terrified by a mugging or other street attack.
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How to reach the naughty dubs who use the internet...
by misspeaches ini've been having a bit of a browse around on www.myspace.com looking at the jw groups.. there are so many listed there and heaps of young jws seem to frequent the sites.. how feasible would it be for someone to setup a jw group under the guise of being pro and slowly but surely bring up questions like... 'hey my history teacher taught from <insert publication name here> that jereuselum (sp) wasn't destroyed in 607bce but in 587bce.
is that true?
whats that all about???'.
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I couldn't help but search around on myspace some more... right this moment, young witnesses in another myspace group are debating over whether or not to run if a gunman comes into the KH and says "Everyone not willing to take a bullet for God, get out!" It's actually kind of sad, because they're beating up on a kid who had this to say: 'id run. i think it would be wrong not to. like not valueing your life or something. when satan told jesus to jump off of the temple jesus said it is wrong to test god. just because some looney bin tells you to do something doesnt mean you have to. what if he said if you love god run accross the freeway 10 times or you dont see international conventions in iraq. dying doesnt = noble. doesnt it say in the bible that some guys were about to stone jesus and he left them? you cant preach the good news if your dead. and you dont have to prove your faith to crazy gun men.' POOR KID!
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How to reach the naughty dubs who use the internet...
by misspeaches ini've been having a bit of a browse around on www.myspace.com looking at the jw groups.. there are so many listed there and heaps of young jws seem to frequent the sites.. how feasible would it be for someone to setup a jw group under the guise of being pro and slowly but surely bring up questions like... 'hey my history teacher taught from <insert publication name here> that jereuselum (sp) wasn't destroyed in 607bce but in 587bce.
is that true?
whats that all about???'.
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A lot of these youth groups are moderated by very strict young JW's. I'm sure you've noticed that on a lot of the group pages, the moderators say something like "If you want to join I will check out your page and examine your pictures and comments; these things say more about you than you do." I think fake profiles would have to be created and maintained in order to join these groups or to start a new one. I think that this would entail a lot of work and fun. I think I would be perfectly willing to help out with this task. Anybody with a strong yen to do this, please PM me!