Truthceeker, I hope your daughter is doing well, your wife did a very good thing, this is something that we have decided to do also in case of needed surgery for ourselves or our children.
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Maybe Interesting Blood News
by truth.ceeker ini had a meeting with my heart surgeon yesterday, and after informing him of our faith, my wife still holding onto to parts of the organization, the dr. said that, "there is a new form that just came out last year from your mother church in new york.
" what this document does is (1) make it clear that the person is not allowing blood to be used, (2) makes it clear that the dr. will have a court order ready in case blood is deemed medically necessary to sustain life and (3) absolves the person's conscience of any guilt if it came down to it.
i'm not sure if this document has been discussed before, but i thought that it was a bit intriguing.
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Did you know anyone in the "truth" that was in an abusive relationship?
by The wanderer indid you know anyone in the "truth" that was in an abusive relationship?
this topic of discussion draws its inspiration from a prior thread.
about a woman's perspective regarding the watchtower society.. the organization maintained the ideal family life making your family life happy, happiness how to find it and.
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I was abused physically, mentally, sexually by my MS stepfather, he also physically abused my brothers and sisters and mentally abused my mom, it was all kept quiet, you know so as not to tarnish Jehoovers name, another family member was abused and severely neglected when she was a tiny baby, it got so bad that another JW family member had to at the request of the totally incompetent JW mother take the baby into their home for a while, but the child's mother remained with this bastard on the advice from the elders and he later went on to become an elder. Even when this child grew up he still physically abused her at times punching her and throwing her against a wall while even though this abuse was going on. The abused girl is today really messed up mentally and till this day her mom has remained faithfully by that bastards side, truly amazing. Sooooooo............this religion is basically worse than the other's because they brainwash women to believe that leaving their abusive husbands would cause Jehoover to dissaprove of them. I hope I live to see the day this DAMN PUBLISHING COMPANY is disbanded, we will hold a giant celebration and raise our voices to announce "SHE HAS FALLEN, WTS THE GREAT HAS FALLEN"!!!!!!
hey dreaming is free!!!
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Russell says the Lord is responsible for his BIZZARE ideas!! - SCAN
by Lady Liberty inhere is a scan from the studies of the scriptures, where russell is saying the lord is reponsible for their content.
i will post some of his crazy teachings about the hoboken ferry, and the steam engine and railway supposedly being spoken of in the bible book of job.
i know its bizzarre!!!
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I've come to the conclusion that these men suffered from dementia, the sad thing is that so many people followed them, well then look at how many people followed Hitler, Jim Jones, David Koresh and a host of other opportunistic bastards that just leach off the brethren. The need for certainty and direction in humans is so great, that any person that comes to them with a pretty story and says they are teaching the true gospel from the Bible can convince them and they will happily follow them and give them their money. I wonder how different the world would have been if that old storybook had never been created.
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Could anyone tell me how exactly Jehovah chose the WT society in 1919?
by Qcmbr inthis teaching is so unique and singular to the jws and fascinates me greatly but i have yet to get any jw answer how this choosing actually happened and instead i'm left with the same feeling of confusion that i get when i ask how someone would know they were anointed.
how did this process of selecting a correct church occur, how did they know it would happen in 1919 if they weren't pre-selected already, how did they know it was going to happen (bit rough on all the other churches who clearly didn't get a chance to spruce themselves up for 1919) and once the votes were cast and jehovah made up his mind how did he inform the contestants of the results?
do the jws claim any kind of divine affirmation of their selection at all?
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It was done in secret, late one night after Rutherford finished his second bottle of bootleg whiskey he had a revelation....Jesus appeared to him and told him that because of all the wonderfull things he and his group were doing ie illegaly stealing Russell's company and booting all the dissenters, being a model of Christian behaviour as far as kindness and clean speach go, among all the other nonsense....because of these things Jesus Christ approved them and named them above all his belongings....just kidding, but like you I would love to know!
Why o why, if Jesus named them in 1919 have there been around 42 changes in their beliefs since then? Sooooo......did Jesus's approval mean nothing to these people? if he approved them as they were, then by changing what they were approved for. they are now disapproved sorry, you can't have it both ways....oh, I forgot we are talking about the WTS and their circular reasoning and insanity.
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Marijuana & Schizophrenia
by ICBehindtheCurtain inhi guys, i was researching this because of something that's going on with a family member, and i found it quite interesting since some other family members who we have tried counseling on the use of this substance told us that marijuana is not addictive, that it's an innocent plant and is not harmful yadayadayada, yeah right!
i intend to go over this with our kids and make sure they understand the documented dangers of this very popular drug.
i just wanted to share it with you all.
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Thank you all for responding, I personally don't blame the plant, since I am sure there are beneficial uses for it, but I do think smoking it can affect you in a negative way. I have seen the negative effects of Marijuana use first hand and I have seen people that were smart and creative who had so many things going for them become isolated, depressed totally incapacitated Bums. It's really sad, that the addiction to this so called innocent drug can destroy so many lives. I suppose some people who use it once in a while and are already succesful, might not disrupt their lives as much as someone who starts doing weed young and is just starting out in their life who might have a predisposition to mental disease, but from what these studies say anyone can be affected negatively from it's use. So....I think for relaxation purposes a little wine is a safer bet.
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New Campaign: "The End of False Religion Is Near" and the Tribulation
by Mikeus inyesterday my wife (an inactive-but-not-yet-df'd jw) and i went over to visit her parent's house (still very active jws), and my mother-in-law handed my wife a flyer entitled 'the end of false religion is near' with a nice evil-destroying lightning bolt pictured on the front.
she whispered to my wife that this was a new campaign and was not supposed to be handed out until next month, but was "very excited, because this is supposed to bring about the tribulation".. they may be right.
inside the two pages they call catholics condoning child molesting (ironic), non-jws blood thirsty war mongers, and how people involved in politics are under mind control (again, ironic), among other things.
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Mary, where in the world did you find that? It's exactly what I was hoping for, I mentioned to my totally brainwashed regular pioneer mom a few weeks ago, that the new tract was almost exactly the same as the one given out in 73, but only because I had heard it here, it would be great to actually show her, but it couldn't be from an "apostate" site, maybe if there was a scan of the tract for proof. Please let me know. Thanks.
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Marijuana & Schizophrenia
by ICBehindtheCurtain inhi guys, i was researching this because of something that's going on with a family member, and i found it quite interesting since some other family members who we have tried counseling on the use of this substance told us that marijuana is not addictive, that it's an innocent plant and is not harmful yadayadayada, yeah right!
i intend to go over this with our kids and make sure they understand the documented dangers of this very popular drug.
i just wanted to share it with you all.
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Hi guys, I was researching this because of something that's going on with a family member, and I found it quite interesting since some other family members who we have tried counseling on the use of this substance told us that Marijuana is not addictive, that it's an innocent plant and is not harmful yadayadayada, yeah right! I intend to go over this with our kids and make sure they understand the documented dangers of this very popular drug. I just wanted to share it with you all. this is from the website www.schizoprenia.com
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Cannabis / Marijuana (and other street drugs) Have Been Linked to Significant Increases in a Person's Risk for Schizophrenia - Overview
- Internet Video Report on Cannabis and Schizophrenia
- Helpful Actions
- Supporting Scientific Evidence
- Most Recent Scientific Research on Schizophrenia and Cannabis Link
- Books on Marijuana / Cannabis Link to Schizophrenia
Overview: Use of street drugs (including LSD, methamphetamine, marijuana/hash/cannabis) have been linked with significantly increased probability of developing schizophrenia. This link has been documented in over 30 different scientific studies (studies done mostly in the UK, Australia and Sweden) over the past 20 years. In one example, a study interviewed 50,000 members of the Swedish Army about their drug consumption and followed up with them later in life. Those who were heavy consumers of cannabis at age 18 were over 600% more likely to be diagnosed with schizophrenia over the next 15 years than those did not take it. (see diagram below). Experts estimate that between 8% and 13% of all schizophrenia cases are linked to marijuna / cannabis use during teen years.
(Image Above: Source: Cannabis and schizophrenia. A longitudinal study of Swedish conscripts, Lancet, 1987)
Many of these research studies indicate that the risk is higher when the drugs are used by people under the age of 21, a time when the human brain is developing rapidly and is particularly vulnerable.
People with any biological predisposition towards schizophrenia are at the highest risk -- unfortunately its impossible to accurately identify this predisposition beforehand ( a family history of mental illness is just one indicator of such a predisposition). [see causes and prevention of schizophrenia for more information on all risk factors linked to a person developing schizophrenia]
Researchers in New Zealand found that those who used cannabis by the age of 15 were more than three times (300%) more likely to develop illnesses such as schizophrenia. Other research has backed this up, showing that cannabis use increases the risk of psychosis by up to 700% for heavy users, and that the risk increases in proportion to the amount of cannabis used (smoked or consumed). Additionally, the younger a person smokes/uses cannabis, the higher the risk for schizophrenia, and the worse the schizophrenia is when the person does develop it. Research by psychiatrists in inner-city areas speak of cannabis being a factor in up to 80 percent of schizophrenia cases.
Professor Robin Murray (London Institute of Psychiatry) has recently (2005) completed a 15-year study of more than 750 adolescents in conjunction with colleagues at King's College London and the University of Otago in New Zealand.
Overall people were 4.5 times more likely to be schizophrenic at 26 if they were regular cannabis smokers at 15, compared to 1.65 times for those who did not report regular use until age 18.
Many researchers now believe that using the drug while the brain is still developing boosts levels of the chemical dopamine in the brain, which can directly lead to schizophrenia.
Professor John Henry, clinical toxicologist at Imperial College London said research has shown that people with a certain genetic makeup who use the drug face a ten times (1000%) higher risk of schizophrenia. (for example - if your risk of schizophrenia was 6% (due to a family history of mental illness) prior to taking cannabis, it could be 60% -- or more likely than not - after taking cannabis). Every person is different (i.e. has different genes and different environments) - so this "10 Times Higher Risk with cannabis use"- is just a generalization, and it may or may not apply to a given person. The increased risk applies to people who inherit variants of a gene named COMT and who smoked cannabis as teenagers. About a quarter of the population have this genetic make-up and up to 15 per cent of the group are likely to develop psychotic conditions if exposed to the drug early in life. Neither the drug nor the gene raises the risk of psychosis by itself.
A recent Dutch study showed that teenagers who indulge in cannabis as few as five times in their life significantly increase their risk of psychotic symptoms.
The increase in evidence during the past decade could be tied to the increased potency of marijuana. A review by the British Lung Association says that the cannabis available on the streets today is 15 times more powerful than the joints being smoked three decades ago.
Schizophrenia can sometimes be triggered by heavy use of hallucinogenic drugs, especially LSD; but it appears that one has to have a genetic predisposition towards developing schizophrenia for this to occur. There is also some evidence suggesting that people suffering from schizophrenia but responding to treatment can have an episode as a result of use of LSD. Methamphetamine and PCP also mimic the symptoms of schizophrenia, and can trigger ongoing symptoms of schizophrenia in those who are vulnerable.
Melbourne University's Professor David Castle stated in a February, 2005 interview that heavy drug use during formative times of life, such as the years at school, could affect the way a teenager or young adult thought, impairing cognitive ability and having a long-term impact on job prospects. Victorian studies had revealed that regular use of cannabis by adolescent girls could trigger long-term depression. And for those vulnerable to a psychotic disorder, even a small amount of cannabis could pose a threat.
Professor Castle, author of the book Marijuana and Madness, has said that those people with this "psychotic proneness" were those who had a family history of mental illness or who had had a bad response on their first use of cannabis or to a tiny amount. Others at risk included those who had experienced a psychotic episode where they had paranoid thinking or heard a voice calling their name. Professor Castle said experiencing such a one-off episode was far more common than people thought.
"People with such a vulnerability should avoid cannabis like the plague," he said.
Without the effects of the drug, such a person might live their whole life without ever experiencing mental health problems. It has been estimated, for example, that between 8% and 13% of people that have schizophrenia today would never have developed the illness without exposure to cannabis.
Professor Castle compared the effect to feeding sweets to a diabetic. While high sugar content foods did not cause too many problems for most people in the short term, they could be catastrophic for diabetics.
He said there was an accumulative effect when it came to cannabis use and schizophrenia. Those who used the drug more than once a week were more prone to needing hospitalisation and often suffered other associated problems such as the breakdown of relations with their family, isolation, crime and violence.
* Cannabis impacts on neurotransmitters that regulate how arousal and stress are managed in the brain. Cannabis takes a long time to metabolise, and can quickly build up to high levels in the body. Once you get to this point, there is a real risk of depression or schizophrenia being triggered.
* A Swedish study of 50,000 military conscripts found heavy use of cannabis increased the risk of suicide by four times (400%). A Victorian study of 2332 adolescents found weekly use increased the risk of suicide attempts among females by five times. Weekly use as a teenager doubled the risk of depression and anxiety. Daily use at the age of 20 boosted the risk of depression and anxiety by five times (500%).
Helpful Actions : If you want to avoid getting schizophrenia - research suggests that the number one thing you should avoid are street drugs (especially marijuana/cannabis - but because you never know what someone has put into a street drug, all of them are dangerous). By avoiding use of all street drugs research suggests that you can greatly reduce the chance (by as much as 50% to 80% if you are biologically predisposed) that you'll develop schizophrenia. Avoiding marijuana after developing schizophrenia also helps reduce relapse rates. Some people with schizophrenia suggest that it makes them feel better, but if depression is an issue we recommend these people talk to their Psych-Doc about possible anti-depressant use rather than street drugs.
Do not use even small amounts of cannabis if you have any family history of mental illness, have had an episode of paranoid thinking or hearing voices or had a bad response when first using cannabis or when using a small amount.
Other street drugs are also very dangerous - partly because they are produced in home laboratories with virtually any possible combination of additional substances mixed in with the drugs. See: Crystal Meth & Schizophrenia
Schizophrenia and Cannabis Video Report:
A recent Internet video report on schizophrenia and cannabis has recently become available. To play the video go to the following link - and then click on "Play" button to view any of the 6 different sections of the video report: Messing with Heads: New Research into the longterm effects of Cannabis (Internet Video, 2005) from the Australian Broadcasting Company (ABC).
Supporting News (a sample):
- Recent news on Marijuana / cannabis and schizophrenia (from schizophrenia.com newsblog)
- Marijuana Doubles Risk of Schizophrenia - March, 2005
- Interview with Dr. Andrew Campbell on Schizophrenia and Cannabis - Feb, 2005
- 25% of cannabis users faces a ten-fold higher risk of mental illness - Jan, 2005
- True Story of Cannabis-Induced Schizophrenia - January, 2005
- Marijuana and Psychosis Link - December, 2004
- Another Study Links Marijuana to Schizophrenia - News, April 2004
- Psychotic Symptoms More Likely with Cannabis - New Scientist, 2004
- The Link between Cannabis and Psychosis - Robin Murray, MD
- Cannabis link to mental illness strengthened - New Scientist Magazine
- If cannabis is safe, why am I psychotic? - Times Online
- My Son and Cannabis - a anecdotal story from a parent convinced that his son's use of cannabis caused the development of schizophrenia. BBC News, June 2005
- Drug Abuse and Risk of Developing Schizophrenia - (News)
- Marijuana and Schizophrenia - (News)
- Cannabis mental health risks 'must be taught' - Guardian Newspaper
- Powerpoint Presentation "Canabis: The Facts" by British Toxicology Society
- Review shows that cannabis use is a risk factor for schizophrenia
- Psychiatrists say "No" to Marijuana
- The National Institute on Drug Abuse Adds Warning of Major Depressive Disorders (MDD’s) Experienced by Marijuana Users
- Causal association between cannabis and psychosis: examination of the evidence. (British Journal of Psychiatry, 2004)
- Cannabis use as a probable causative factor in the later development of schizophrenia
- Cannabis and neurological soft signs in schizophrenia: absence of relationship and influence on psychopathology
- Self reported cannabis use as a risk factor for schizophrenia in Swedish conscripts of 1969: historical cohort study
- Cannabis and schizophrenia: impact on onset, course, psychopathology and outcomes
- Marijuana Mental Disturbances
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Major OCTOBER 2006 SURPRISE: court says open ped files per silentlambs.org
by majornewsin2006 incalifornia court tells watchtower society to make public the silentlambs files revealing who among jehovahs witness are pedophiles etc:.
http://silentlambs.org/newsletter/newsletteritem.cfm?sendoutid=489.
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Sir82 AHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!! you crack me up! but you and I both know this is probably true. Oh to be a flower on the wall of their legal department right now......
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STRANGE.. WT beliefs most JWs don't know about!!! From Jehovah & Jesus???
by Lady Liberty inwhen i was researching the watchtowers history, i stumbled across many strange and disturbing things!
here are some.. what have you found?
scans would be great for those still deciding and researching.. sincerely,.
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AMAZING!!!! BIZARRE!!!!! HILARIOUS!!!!! TRULY NUTTY!!!!!!
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Very Interesting web site about the History of The Bible Students
by restrangled inthis was added to the end of one of my threads, but for those of you that don't get all the way through....this looks fascinating.
i don't know if anyone has come across this or not but thought it might be helpful in researching jw's history.. r.. bible students online: bible student history.
a history of charles taze russell .
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Thanks for this info Restrangled, what is amazing to me is how can the Bible Students still believe in all this BS, well...I guess it's no different from the JW's believing in all of Rutherford's BS!
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