5 For every high priest taken from among men is appointed in behalf of men over the things pertaining to God, that he may offer gifts and sacrifices for sins. 2 He is able to deal moderately with the ignorant and erring ones since he also is surrounded with his own weakness, 3 and on its account he is obliged to make offerings for sins as much for himself as for the people. 4 Also, a man takes this honor, not of his own accord, but only when he is called by God, just as Aaron also [was]. 5 So too the Christ did not glorify himself by becoming a high priest, but [was glorified by him] who spoke with reference to him: "You are my son; I, today, I have become your father." 6 Just as he says also in another place: "You are a priest forever according to the manner of Mel·chiz´e·dek." 7 In the days of his flesh [Christ] offered up supplications and also petitions to the One who was able to save him out of death, with strong outcries and tears, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. 8 Although he was a Son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered; 9 and after he had been made perfect he became responsible for everlasting salvation to all those obeying him, 10 because he has been specifically called by God a high priest according to the manner of Mel·chiz´e·dek. 11 Concerning him we have much to say and hard to be explained, since YOU have become dull in YOUR hearing. 12 For, indeed, although YOU ought to be teachers in view of the time, YOU again need someone to teach YOU from the beginning the elementary things of the sacred pronouncements of God; and YOU have become such as need milk, not solid food. 13 For everyone that partakes of milk is unacquainted with the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. 14 But solid food belongs to mature people, to those who through use have their perceptive powers trained to distinguish both right and wrong.
Rooster
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Does God Need an Organisation? Help
by Gordy in.
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can anyone direct me to information or article showing that god does not need an organisation like the watchtower.
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I can't believe they still include crap like this on the CDROM
by XBEHERE in*** yy chap.
5 p. 39 par.
9 masturbation and homosexuality ***.
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In actual fact, if you play with your willie you will go blind.
I dont know how I managed to read this thread btw!
Get me my white stick!
HAHA - what a load of old single fish.
LMAO...
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I'm going to get out
by Sacchiel inhey everyone, i've been examining my faith and found it doesn't stand up to biblical theology.
its going to be hard since a lot family and friends will very likely repudiate me.
i have taken some steps to introduce topics to my family that will get them to analyze the wt teachings.
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An old sister in our hall (the one I use to attend) disassociated herself. They would not read her letter to the congregation. They just announced the fact and told us not to associate with her..
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An Unexpected Gratitude.... (kinda long)
by BrendaCloutier ini got married in june 1975 at 18-1/2 years old.
this after being pulled out of h.s.
(3.4gpa) to go into the ministry and regular pioneer, or eventually find a husband.
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Thank you for sharing.. Life can be a bitch @ times..
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Why did Jews cut their willies?!!
by Spectrum inwhat demented person came up with this idea?
they could have just cut their cheeks like the west africans did?
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Estoril – Portugal
SCC 2001 Oct., 8th
Dear Brother:
Some days ago we received your letter in which you tell how worried you feel about something you read on an Online brochure of the United
Nations, about the WTBTS of New York. So we are glad to provide some commentaries about that matter.
Just at the beginning we want you to know that we appreciate your feelings about this matter and that you want to see Jehovah’s name and the
name of his earthly organization clean and holy.
While answering your question we would like to quote something, which is said in that brochure about what it means to be an NGO. In the
brochure we can read the following:
“What is an NGO? A non-governmental organization (NGO) is any non-profit, voluntary citizens’ group which is organized on a local, national
or international level. …NGO’s perform a variety of services and humanitarian functions; bring citizen’s concerns to Governments. …Some
are organized around specific issues, such as human rights, the environment or health. Their relationship with offices and agencies of the
United Nations System differs depending on their goals, their venue and their mandate.”
As mentioned above, the goals of the NGO’s registered with the DPI differ. Some of them are registered as Human Rights Organizations, as it
happens with the WTBTS of NY. (If you take a look, the Society is listed as an NGO which defends Human Rights). However, that doesn’t
mean that it [the Society] has nonbiblical links with the UN. As told above, the kind of relationship the NGO’s have with the offices and
agencies of the UN differ from one organization to another, depending of their own goals.
So, to make it easy to understand, what happens is that since the Society wants to defend the rights of our brothers in countries where their
human rights are violated, sending them medical care, food and other kind of assistance (as it happened in Rwanda and in many other countries
and most recently in Georgia, where our brothers are without the most elementary human rights). For this it is necessary that the Society be
registered at the UN as a Human Rights Organization. This is the only way to help our brothers, many times doing this while asking for
meetings with highly positioned members of governments, ambassadors and so on. However this does not mean that the Society is in any way
involved politically with the UN or giving support to their political decisions. No! Jehovah’s people continue to keep itself politically neutral.
We are just using a right which was given to us with the goal to –as Paul said- (…)
In biblical times the apostle Paul used his citizenship (a right given to him by the state without demanding a political involvement in state
affairs) as an argument to get a trial in the highest courts in the country giving a good testimony that way. (Acts 25:11) In the same way the
WTBTS of NY is making use of a position, which the UN gives to several non-governmental organizations without going against his Christian
neutrality. Doing this, the Organization is able to ‘defend and legally establish the good news’- Phil. 1:7.
A similar thing happens, as an example, with the unions. A Christian could, if he wished so, be associated with a union, which would defend
his rights as a worker, and he would pay his fee to the union getting benefits in case that the union would defend his rights if they would be
violated. However, even if the Christian could receive certain benefits while being associated with a union, he would not involve himself in the
union activities, nor would he accept any position in the union and he would not involve himself in any political activity, which would violate
his well, trained biblical conscience. The same rule applies to this matter you asked about. The brothers are just using a right given to them by
the UN when they got registered as a NGO defending Human Rights. So they can better assist the interests of our brothers and take care that
their voice is heard in the highest levels of governments (as Paul did) without at any time being involved or giving any kind of support to the
“beast” of Revelation.
So we appreciate your feelings but you can be assured that the WTBTS of NY is keeping his strict neutrality in political questions, while not
getting involved with anything which is non-biblical, nor giving any support to the “beast”.
We hope that this information will be helpful for you, brother, and that it may have cleared everything about this matter which made you feel
worry. Without any other issue at this time we close this letter and use the opportunity to send you our Christian love.
Your brothers,
Association of Jehovahs Witnesses
(Stamp)
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Come One Come All Deliverence is near Get your Convention Program here
by Tea4Two in"deliverance at hand" is the theme for the jehovah's witnesses district convention may 26 to 28 at the resch center.
serving parts of wisconsin, michigan and the upper peninsula, the convention opens the season for district meetings throughout the united states.
nearly 11 million people attended the 2,981 district conventions last year.
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Rooster
Estoril – Portugal
SCC 2001 Oct., 8th
Dear Brother:
Some days ago we received your letter in which you tell how worried you feel about something you read on an Online brochure of the United
Nations, about the WTBTS of New York. So we are glad to provide some commentaries about that matter.
Just at the beginning we want you to know that we appreciate your feelings about this matter and that you want to see Jehovah’s name and the
name of his earthly organization clean and holy.
While answering your question we would like to quote something, which is said in that brochure about what it means to be an NGO. In the
brochure we can read the following:
“What is an NGO? A non-governmental organization (NGO) is any non-profit, voluntary citizens’ group which is organized on a local, national
or international level. …NGO’s perform a variety of services and humanitarian functions; bring citizen’s concerns to Governments. …Some
are organized around specific issues, such as human rights, the environment or health. Their relationship with offices and agencies of the
United Nations System differs depending on their goals, their venue and their mandate.”
As mentioned above, the goals of the NGO’s registered with the DPI differ. Some of them are registered as Human Rights Organizations, as it
happens with the WTBTS of NY. (If you take a look, the Society is listed as an NGO which defends Human Rights). However, that doesn’t
mean that it [the Society] has nonbiblical links with the UN. As told above, the kind of relationship the NGO’s have with the offices and
agencies of the UN differ from one organization to another, depending of their own goals.
So, to make it easy to understand, what happens is that since the Society wants to defend the rights of our brothers in countries where their
human rights are violated, sending them medical care, food and other kind of assistance (as it happened in Rwanda and in many other countries
and most recently in Georgia, where our brothers are without the most elementary human rights). For this it is necessary that the Society be
registered at the UN as a Human Rights Organization. This is the only way to help our brothers, many times doing this while asking for
meetings with highly positioned members of governments, ambassadors and so on. However this does not mean that the Society is in any way
involved politically with the UN or giving support to their political decisions. No! Jehovah’s people continue to keep itself politically neutral.
We are just using a right which was given to us with the goal to –as Paul said- (…)
In biblical times the apostle Paul used his citizenship (a right given to him by the state without demanding a political involvement in state
affairs) as an argument to get a trial in the highest courts in the country giving a good testimony that way. (Acts 25:11) In the same way the
WTBTS of NY is making use of a position, which the UN gives to several non-governmental organizations without going against his Christian
neutrality. Doing this, the Organization is able to ‘defend and legally establish the good news’- Phil. 1:7.
A similar thing happens, as an example, with the unions. A Christian could, if he wished so, be associated with a union, which would defend
his rights as a worker, and he would pay his fee to the union getting benefits in case that the union would defend his rights if they would be
violated. However, even if the Christian could receive certain benefits while being associated with a union, he would not involve himself in the
union activities, nor would he accept any position in the union and he would not involve himself in any political activity, which would violate
his well, trained biblical conscience. The same rule applies to this matter you asked about. The brothers are just using a right given to them by
the UN when they got registered as a NGO defending Human Rights. So they can better assist the interests of our brothers and take care that
their voice is heard in the highest levels of governments (as Paul did) without at any time being involved or giving any kind of support to the
“beast” of Revelation.
So we appreciate your feelings but you can be assured that the WTBTS of NY is keeping his strict neutrality in political questions, while not
getting involved with anything which is non-biblical, nor giving any support to the “beast”.
We hope that this information will be helpful for you, brother, and that it may have cleared everything about this matter which made you feel
worry. Without any other issue at this time we close this letter and use the opportunity to send you our Christian love.
Your brothers,
Association of Jehovahs Witnesses
(Stamp)
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Yes I agree..
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Alternative service now seen as desirable
by ozziepost infrom the wt media site is this report from korea:.
south korea's national human rights commission recommends alternative civilian service.
on december 26, 2005, the national human rights commission (nhrc) in seoul officially recommended .
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Jack, a 15-pound orange-and-white cat, watches as the bear waits for an opening to flee.
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The great pyramid
by OneLord inmost people would consider it very wacky to connect the pyramid of gizah with the bible.
russell's claim was that the pyramid, the 1.st wonder of the world, was a witness down the ages containing god's plan.
the teachings and ideas on this seem to be so complex, that few people would spend / waste the time required to study these things.
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:-)
Rooster, are you sure you are on the right thread?
I was just saying that the Pyramids have nothing to do with being a Christian!
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The great pyramid
by OneLord inmost people would consider it very wacky to connect the pyramid of gizah with the bible.
russell's claim was that the pyramid, the 1.st wonder of the world, was a witness down the ages containing god's plan.
the teachings and ideas on this seem to be so complex, that few people would spend / waste the time required to study these things.
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The old pyramid story was one of things that did it for me. When I looked at the front of the book with the pyramid pull out I nearly wet myself, complete and utter bonkers I tell you.
Now what new light is there about that I ask you???
BM
I must say I had the same reaction... How does God add new light to the works of the Devil? This teaching of new light is bull crap!!