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  Is Fading a DF Offense?

  by besty in

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  wife sweet pea and i are just starting the 2nd phase of our fade, which as we are already inactive and at 50% meeting attendance, means stopping going altogether.. supposing the elders decide they want to make a shepherding call - which we naturally decline - could they announce us as 'no longer known as jw's' for declining the call, not being at meetings and being inactive?.

  what if we did take the shepherding call and told the elders we just weren't coming back, with no specific reasons given?

  they would be bound to ask if we still believed the fds doctrine, which we could lie about use theocratic warfare strategy and say we were just a bit depressed, with money worries, struggling with the routine etc and would probably be back soon.. thoughts?.

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  Wild_Thing

  After I faded completely, the elders would come to my door and I wouldn't answer. Then, they cornered me at my sister's baby shower and asked if I would meet with them. I told them "I'm not interested." He said, "Are you sure?" I confirmed and he asked why not. I said, "I'm just not interested" I didn't deviate too much from that phrase no matter what he asked me. He would ask me pretty loaded questions that could've gotten me in trouble, so I said, "You know, I'm just not interested in discussing this with you."

  It shut him up, and felt pretty good to use the conversation closer on them that they try so hard to overcome at the doors!

  Also, it has been years now, and they have yet to make any kind of announcement about me.
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  With all of the negative talk by Born-Agains against JW's are BAC's better?

  by booker-t in

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  with all of the negativity you read on ex-jw's websites and christian websites against jw's, one question comes to my mind do bac's(born-again christians) and ex-jw's think that they can do a better job at preaching the gospel/good news to the public?

  while i don't agree with alot of what jw's teach i do admire their dedication in field service something i just don't see in born-again christianity.

  i know alot of bac's that smoke, drink too much, cheat on their spouses, cheat on their taxes and don't receive any kind of church discipline.

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  While I don't agree with alot of what JW's teach I do admire their dedication in field service something I just don't see in Born-Again Christianity.

  Are you kidding me? Both groups condemn billions of people to death simply for having a different belief system. The JW's system of knocking on doors is nothing to admire.

  I know alot of BAC's that smoke, drink too much, cheat on their spouses, cheat on their taxes and don't receive any kind of church discipline.

  I know a lot of JWs that smoke, drink too much, cheat on their spouses, cheat on their on their taxes and don't receive any kind of church discipline, too.
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  National Dean's List.

  by jeeprube in

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  i was just nominated to the national dean's list.

  i know that there are a lot of other college students and college graduates here, anybody ever been on it?

  did it help your career, or is it just a waste of time?.

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  I was put into the National Chancellor's List twice ... same thing ... same company ... Dean's List is for undergraduate, Chancellor's List is for graduate. I bought their book the first time because I thought it was an honor, but the second time I didn't. I kinda think it's gimmicky, and their books and other memorabilia is outrageously priced! It doesn't cost anything to send in the form and be published though! It looks great to list on a resume, even if it is kinda gimmicky. And it is still an honor ... even if they do try to sell you a book.
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  Would you join a "Letters to the Editor" Campaign?

  by LennyinBluemont in

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  i just finished reading randys thread (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/128072/1.ashx).

  it occurs to me that his initial post here, with a bit of re-wording and reducing it to maybe three short paragraphs, would make an excellent letter to the editor of our local papers.

  what if we all embarked on a letter-writing campaign to our local papers, using this as a basis?

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  Wild_Thing

  Since it is currently out on DVD, I am wondering why it isn't on bit torrent or some other file sharing program on the internet. Are you apostates letting me down?

  I would like to see it for myself before I write a letter of protest. But I most definitely will not purchase a copy and support the film makers.
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  Over eating yes, smoking no...why?

  by Justice-One in

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  why does the society hate smoking so much?

  because it is "defiling" the body?

  if that is the case, what about drinking coffee, or over-eating?

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  Wild_Thing

  They do associate smoking with spiritism and that's why the Df.

  Do you have a literature reference for this? I was raised in the org, and I remember it being for the reasons initially mentioned ... "defiling the body". I am young though, so maybe this was an earlier reason given. So many times, they keep the doctrine, and just change the reason.
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  Judge Rutheford on You Tube

  by cabasilas in

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  watch the record spin and the judge preach:.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk8j9fbu014.

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  Wow! That was interesting! It was only posted on youtube a few hours ago! I can't believe people use to tote those around for people to listen to him at their door. I kept listening for him to mention a date, other than soon, soon, soon! But he didn't. Good thing it is only 4-something minutes long, I don't think I could handle listening to any more of it.

  I looked up the username, "judgerutherford", and he has one other video posted of an old "gramaphone" record. It is of some man singing a "kingdom" song and he includes the riddle: "singing kingdom songs on my 78 windup gramaphone, who is it, i know but want you to guess who it is, the clue is, he was a famous film star" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moGIzofUmfc

  I could only listen to the first few seconds of it before my stomach started turning and I shut it off, but I am curious as to who it is. Anybody care to take a stab? Obviously a male, I think he is American, and evidently a famous film star in the 30s to 50s era.

  I hope after all this wondering, it is somebody I have actually heard of before.
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  PROVE ME WRONG! JW's were the only religion to oppose Hitler

  by truthsearcher in

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  this statement was made to me and i want to refute it with verifiable information on other denominations.

  anyone with ideas?.

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  You might this link interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_and_religion.

  Also, this one:
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  In need of Literature

  by loosie in

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  i'm pretty sure my fade in this town is sucessful.

  i would like to have the january '07 and feburary '07 watchtowers and the latest library cd.

  i don't want to go back to the kh to get them.. i have two friends who are still in ( they think i am in too).

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  You can download the latest CD-Rom off the internet somewhere. I am not sure where, but hopefully, someone else will know and post it for you. reexamine.org maybe?
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  Beyond JW, another former Witness site.

  by free2beme in

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  i mentioned one time, on a past thread, that the first former witness site i found was this site called beyond jw and it was run by a man named tim campbell.

  it was not the level of quality of this site, but it had some good information and links and a message board.

  while i did not visit the board, like i visit this one, for a long time i thought it was the only former witness site and got familiar with it.

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  Wild_Thing

  I was sad to see him close his site down, too, but at the same time I am happy for him. I hope he is moving on to better things. I know he spent a lot of time on his site and forums, when they were up, and Timothy never did anything half-assed. His site was the first one I ever dared look at, and his forums were the first I posted at before he closed his down (actually I posted at the first version). He is a very interesting man, and have often thought about contacting him to meet with him again.
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  JWD outage -- what if it were longer or worse, permanent?

  by Fatfreek in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  jwd to me, and for some like me, is my morning coffee.

  if its not up, like earlier today, it gets me to thinking, what if this were a permanent thing?

  what if jwd were actually shut down like our friend quotes site in 2006?

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  Wild_Thing

  I would thank Jehovah that a bunch of people who claim that they were Jehovah's Witnesses have lost a place to tell what they do not know and never understood about the religion.

  Dear Steve (grissom6471),

  We have seen many people come to these forums who make similar comments as yourself. All are welcome here, regardless of belief, so welcome! Most of us here have been Witnesses for years. In fact many of us have been elders, pioneers, and we even have a few former Bethelites. You will find that most here are still pretty well versed in the official doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower society, no matter how fluid they may be. Stick around and you may learn a few new things, too! Websites like this one vary as far as quality goes, and this one seems to have a good mix of folks.