so i decided to sign up after many years of lurking.
started researching after finding out about ray franz, which inevitably brought me to this site.. i'm still well and truly inn, but don't want to give any information out, i'm sure you guys know the reasons.. since "jay double you .
org" came online, there has been a definite sense of hysteria with everyone who is "inn", and i get a feeling it's going to get a whole lot crazier as the years press on.. one point i would like to raise is that i feel, without a doubt, that 2034 is going to be the new finish line.
Welcome Campaign of Hate!
I love all those that are 'in' and report back to the forum... we all like to be kept abreast of 'developments'.
It was interesting to hear about the role jw.borg is playing, it seems to have revitalised some and made others more skeptical. I think many are wondering 'what happened?' the religion they joined all those years ago, compared to the 'high octane' version bursting through the internets.
I look forward to your next posts.
the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).
before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.
first, the reason i think it should be shown:.
It seems to me the con's out way the pro's. It would be disingenuous to say the forum needs a 'flag', the forum seems to have scraped by without one so far. If it upsets even a few members why bother?
I think perhaps of all the reasons mentioned for adding the flag, the primary reason would be Simon found a cool little widget that places the flag on the posts and thought it looked cool... the other reasons strike me as considerations after the fact.
If I wanted to know the country of origin of a poster I would ask, if they want to answer so be it.
Personally it would not really bother me one way or the other, however I would give way to those that feel they have something to lose.
i was talking with two brothers at the kingdom hall the other day.
one of them suggested seeing the new exodus movie.
the other brother says, "i heard it's really violent"!
Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Some bloke
an athist made this casual statememt on another thread:.
this would suggest to me that there are at least some atheists that do have consistant beliefs.. .
as an atheist, how could he possibly trust the reason that suggests this to himself?
What scientists are saying is that atheists deep down believe in order and reason which are not the product of chance and chaos, but are consistent with being made in the image of God. In other words, you need to borrow certain things from the Christian worldview in order to struggle against it.
Here is an interesting view on the research Perry is referring to. http://www.science20.com/writer_on_the_edge/blog/scientists_discover_that_atheists_might_not_exist_and_thats_not_a_joke-139982
Perry this has nothing to do with the how dependable an 'atheist's' logic is. You have no need to over-reach. It almost seems like you are suggesting that logic and reason cannot exist without a god (presumably 'your' god?). Would two plus two equal four in a universe created without a god? Would two plus two equal four in a universe created by a different god to YOUR god?
yes it happen again with our youngest son.
this last monday we got a letter from him telling us how unloving we are because we are no longer jw.
cult and not had kids.
STADD, I agree totally with Oubliette. IMHO you should not write suggesting how your son should behave, but rather write telling him how you will behave (i.e. with love).
Personally, having read years' worth of posts in this forum, I believe older JWs leave the Borg after self-awakening rather than being pulled out. The 'seed of doubt' needs to be planted, but ultimately it will be a personal journey. I believe you leaving should have planted that seed.
Perhaps if you need to write a letter you could write about your love for them, how much you miss them and how you hope in the future you will be able to see one another again. You could suggest 'they ask you' if they would ever like to chat about why you left, but doing it the other way round might push them further away.
However insulting the letters they send you, remember it is the WT talking. The fact they are writing means they are reaching out.
Good luck however you choose to play it.
if suppose we meet a person in field service having swastika symbol in house.
how to speake, which introduction helpfull to conversate, which bible verse can applicable.
please do the needful..
"Hello.... Oh I see you have a swastika there? I am very curious, are you a rascist or a spiritualist nutter?"
it used to bother me that people would say that about my well meaning religion.
how do you prove that witnesses are indeed, false prophets?.
i just found this out last night.
(preface: this is a husband and wife that i have come to be friends with after leaving the borg, they are christians).
we were sitting around visiting last night and having a good time when my friend starts in on illegal immigration and politics and starts throwing out his hate speech which eventually turns to homosexuals.
I think you are all over reacting... clearly when 'the husband' responded....
I asked "do you think dinosaurs and humans walked the earth together?" ... the husband answerd, "No, dinosaurs never did walk the earth"
... he was referring to the fact that dinosaurs actually skipped rather than walked, when skipping was not possible hopping was preferred. ;o)
this is an unofficial survey.. was curious as to the number of currently serving elders who were born-in and/or raised as jw versus those who were "recruited"( i.e, not born in or raised as jw.).
for instance, right now in the hall i am assigned to:.
2 elders were born-in and/or raised as jws.. 5 were not (recruited as adults).
I wonder if there is still a hole in the age breakdown of the elders. There were very few elders of the age where they may have teenage children, obvisouly as kids from 14 yo to 20 yo would be rebelling and hence their fathers would be stripped of their elderhood; they would be back as elders once 'enough' time had elapsed and the kids had flown the coup.
this is a rumor i heard back in november, it comes to me third or fourth-hand.
feel free to poke holes.
i have many doubts about this myself.
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2000242
WhatOthersSayAboutJehovah’sWitnesses
“While other churches hire consultants to lure people into the pews or grapple with modern-day issues such as homosexuality and abortion, the Witnesses make no concessions to a changing world. They still systematically canvass the Earth.”—TheOrangeCountyRegister of Orange County, California, U.S.A.
Interesting!
