My country had theirs last nite.
Did anyone go? Any new points in the talk or anything interesting you care to report? (doubt it)
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What was the memorial like last nite (Southern Hemisphere)?
by yaddayadda inmy country had theirs last nite.
any new points in the talk or anything interesting you care to report?
(doubt it)
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Why 1914 Won't Be Abandoned...
by deaconbluez in"crisis of conscience" pointed out a lot of the following:.
jehovah's witnesses simply can't abandon the 1914 teaching because it is too much of a pivotal date on which a major portion of their doctrinal and authority structure rests.
their belief system is tied with 1914 in the following ways:.
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yaddayadda
Technically you are absolutely right. But as the years keep rolling by I can very easily see them reducing the amount of doctrine attached to the date. Particularly when the remaining old GB die-hards like Jack Barr finally die off (who evidently is a chief stalwart of the date).
They will ever so slowly focus less and less on 1914, gradually dropping certain other dates linked to it (eg, 1919, 1922), until finally 1914 simply becomes something similar to how the Seventh Day Adventists view 1844: a date when Jesus returned and did an 'investigative judgement', 'spiritually inspecting' Christendom and appointed the Watchtower Society as his sole channel (based on their overall better level of doctrinal purity from Babylonish dogma than broader Christendom). By doing that they can even drop the absurd teaching that the kingdom started ruling in 1914 and shift all of that into the future while retaining their full authority over the organisation. The great majority of JW's would totally buy this. Piece of cake!
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Do I sound bitter?.....(email to mom)
by *jeremiah* inon a mac, i hope this formats correctly.
my 1st email and question:
(salutations)
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"When the Israelites left Egypt many alien residents (non-Israelites) left with them. They were not a part of the Mosaic covenant, but could benefit by aligning themselves to the nation of Israel. They were also under obligation to keep all the laws including celebrating the Passover. (Ex. 12: 14-19)"
If you sincerely want to get to the bottom of it then do some research into the above. Your mother has apparently missed an obvious contradiction in her above statement: she is correct that the alien residents actually celebrated the passover. If the 'great crowd' are the modern day equivalent to the 'alien residents', and the alien residents actually PARTOOK of the passover meal just the same as the Israelites did, then how can it be that the great crowd are prevented from PARTAKING of the emblems at the memorial, (whether or not they are in the new covenant)?
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GB makes exception
by sspo inhave some of you ever seen in the organization a minesterial servant that misses meetings for weeks at a time, hardly ever preaches.
shows up occasionally for sunday meeting.
when you mention his name to other servants , no one wants to talk about it.. the reason the elders and the co don't remove him is that once a year the society needs him at bethel since he is licensed in certain trades.
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yaddayadda
Nope never heard of that. If the MS becomes irregular in his field service he will definitely be dumped, no matter what his other skills are.
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Today's Text is Scriptural Blasphemy
by gumby inhey gang, this morning as i was making some coffee i saw the "text book" lying there and decided i'd read todays text as i never do, just to see what it had to say.. it was taken from john 15:12 which says..... " this is my commandment, that you love one another just as i have loved you".. anyways, it goes on to say what jesus told his diciples who asked him which was the greatest of all the commandments and jesus answered them that "you must love god with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself".
then it went on to ask if this law was also important to christians today and the comment was.... ( and heres the kicker) "absolutely, the law of christ involves a heartfelt love of god and includes a new command.....christians are to have a self sacrificing love for one another".. so rather than say christians are to love your fellowman, they twist the scripture and say christians are to love other christians.......and we all know by that statement they mean other jehovah's witnesses since they hold no regard for christians of this world.
yes, once again they play mind tricks on the publishers and tell them to love each other...rather than your fellowman and people of this world in general as was the case in the illustration jesus himself gave with the good samaritan.. it's no wonder jehovah's witnesses are despised by many in this world with their self rightous attitudes and beliefs regarding their fellowman that is induced in them by a few old men from brooklyn new york.. i hope your reading this wtbts spies, i really do.
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Arthur said: "One example of this is the term "spiritual pornography". This term sounds down right repulsive and it evokes a very visceral reaction just upon hearing it. But, what does it really mean? According to WT publications, it means any material (in print or electronic) which is critical of the Watchtower Society. In fact, any material which makes observations about the WTS that is less than flattering would fit under this term."
I've never heard the Society use the term 'spiritual pornography' and your definition of it. Where are you getting this from Arthur? Quotes please. -
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Who wants to see this year's DC invitation?
by sir82 inif someone is willing to host them, send me your e-mail address in a pm.
i will send you 4 scanned jpg files, of the invitation & boe letters associated with it.. .
teaser: there are some brand-new, unprecedented features to this year's dc!.
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yaddayadda
Its pleasing to see so much emphasis on Jesus. This is extraordinary for JW's.
The theme of the public talk is disappointing though. Obviously it is going to be a rant about how JW's are so much better than other 'Christians'. They cannot resist bashing other Christians and elevating the organisation.
Using the words 'the Christ' instead of just Jesus or Christ is very suspicious. No doubt they are going to apply this term to the FDS/GB and use it as a submission tool. -
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Do you think that "JW's" will get rid of the "Paradise earth" doctrine?
by booker-t inwith all of the changes regarding the 1935 closing of the heavenly calling that jw's taught for over 70 years what will be the next thing to go in their doctrinal system.
will they one day say"we were wrong the earth is going to burn up and all christians will go to heaven".
russell was right after all and yes the "great crowd" will indeed go to heaven.nothing suprises me anymore with the jw's.
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yaddayadda
Never in a million years.
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Do you still feel guilty, not going to the memorial?
by JH inthe first time i missed the memorial, i was sick and couldn't go, and felt guilty because that meeting was so important.. then another year, i missed again, this time i wasn't sick.
i still felt guilty, because i still believed in the religion to a certain extent.
i didn't go because i didn't want to go back to the meetings, and feel trapped once more.. maybe some feel guilty that they aren't doing anything for the memorial or easter, depending which religion you think is right, because after all jesus did say to remember him..
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yaddayadda
A little, but only because my mother will be upset by my non-attendance.
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Are you a faster typer because of the forum?
by avidbiblereader inmost people that i am around in real estate are peckers or pickers, they can't type fast, has the forum made you a faster typer.. yes or no?.
abr.
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yaddayadda
Yep it helps. I taught myself to touch type years ago. Best thing I ever did. Saves me hours at work. I am up to 80 WPM and I'm a bloke.
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Who wants to see this year's DC invitation?
by sir82 inif someone is willing to host them, send me your e-mail address in a pm.
i will send you 4 scanned jpg files, of the invitation & boe letters associated with it.. .
teaser: there are some brand-new, unprecedented features to this year's dc!.
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yaddayadda
Come on, just scan them and stick them up here for everyone to see ya big tease.